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Tayytennis 01-12-2013 02:36 PM

Division 1 tennis ratings???
 
does anybody know what rating is required to get into a american university and play division 1 tennis?

Doubles 01-12-2013 03:16 PM

You should be one of the top players in your country.

McLovin 01-12-2013 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Tayytennis (Post 7115287)
does anybody know what rating is required to get into a american university and play division 1 tennis?

Last I knew, American University didn't have a tennis team...

But seriously, I dont think a specific rating to play, unless you want a scholarship. If you are good enough, they will take you. However, you should be at least an NTRP 5.0 rated player (not sure what the equivalent is in the UK) if you hope to play on the team, and most likely an NTRP 5.5 rated player at the top schools (e.g., UVA, UCLA, Stanford, etc.).

dominikk1985 01-12-2013 04:16 PM

you need at least some ATP points. I would say most D1 players are ranked like 700 in the world or so (the best are higher).

Guys like john isner, alexander waske, the bryan twins and many others played college tennis.

The Meat 01-12-2013 04:22 PM

ITF blue chips for top 50 in tennis ratings at universities in the U.S. Just win a lot in the junior circuits, though I have seen a person who posted youtube videos of his game and he got accepted at a D1 school.

SystemicAnomaly 01-12-2013 09:15 PM

I believe that Div 1 players in US universities are generally in the 5.0 to 6.0 NTRP range. This is equivalent to ITN of 4 thru 2, respectively. That should equate to a UK rating of 4.1/4.2 up to 2.1/2.2

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Phonco 01-12-2013 11:33 PM

For a D1 school, I believe it is between 5.5 - 6.0/7.0. Most players at the top echelon of D1 either go pro or are near pro level i.e Devarrman/Isner/Johnson etc. The minimum could be a 5.0, but at a competitive D1 I think it'd be more correct to be 5.5.

A competitive D2 is about 5.0 - 5.5, and a competitive D3 is probably 4.5 - 5.0.

The best of each division would only be average for the next level. There are always exceptions, but I think these are good estimates.

goran_ace 01-12-2013 11:44 PM

NTRP ratings are absolutely useless in recruiting and have no part in the conversation. Junior tennis is evaluated on rankings and results in big tournaments.

tennis_balla 01-13-2013 01:42 AM

It depends on the university you're wanting to attend. The higher the university is ranked, the higher their standards will be.

Universities look at your national ranking, players you've played against and beat, your game and how well it fits into their team/what they are looking for. Pick 4-5 universities, make a 10min video of yourself playing, write up a resume about yourself of your past results, goals, what you want to study etc. If you are completely lost, there are paid services that help players get into US universities.

Div. 1 for the most part isn't that difficult as the level can be pretty wide. Some Div. 1 schools can be pretty dismal. NCAA Div. 2 schools are sometimes just as good and better than a lot of Div. 1 schools. The recruiting is a bit more relaxed there, as players who've accepted prize money in the past on the ITF circuit playing Futures are still eligible but only up to a certain % of money accepted. I don't know all the details and maybe the rules have changed since. Florida, Georgia, California, Texas will be your hot spots of good athletics programs.

Look at tennis recruiting videos on Youtube to get an idea of how to make one. It will be necessary otherwise you will not have a chance. What you can also do is try emailing a coach at a university and ask him a bunch of questions of what is required and so on, the playing standards, tell him your ranking and what sort of university you'd have a shot at. Don't email the coach at UCLA or Stanford, but a regular Div. 1 school will do. Don't make it a long email, as they are pretty busy. Don't expect an answer, so you could try emailing a few coaches and see who responds. They are usually very friendly, and considering you're from England they'll know you're trying to get info not easily available.

Ash_Smith 01-13-2013 02:07 AM

Tayy - contact Sarah at tennissmart.net, they specialise in helping place UK students at US Universities and will be best placed to advise you on the process and requirements.

cheers

Tayytennis 01-13-2013 02:14 AM

Thanks guys

dominikk1985 01-13-2013 04:59 AM

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Originally Posted by SystemicAnomaly (Post 7115888)
I believe that Div 1 players in US universities are generally in the 5.0 to 6.0 NTRP range. This is equivalent to ITN of 4 thru 2, respectively. That should equate to a UK rating of 4.1/4.2 up to 2.1/2.2

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5.0 is a little low, isn't it?

or would you say that john isner or the bryans were only 5.0-5.5 players?

wouldn't 6.0 to 7.0 be more acurate?

monomer 01-13-2013 06:42 AM

There is a huge spread in D1 players. I would be surprised if the #6 singles players at teams like East Tennessee State and University of Alabama Birmingham are 5.5+

goran_ace 01-13-2013 09:56 AM

Interesting that you bring up UAB. I don't really follow them closely so not sure what they are like now but I remember back in my college playing days they were awesome. Had a couple of all-americans on the roster who went on to play on the ATP.

SystemicAnomaly 01-13-2013 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by dominikk1985 (Post 7116230)
5.0 is a little low, isn't it?

or would you say that john isner or the bryans were only 5.0-5.5 players?

wouldn't 6.0 to 7.0 be more acurate?

Not really. Not all D1 schools are at the level of Stanford. Santa Clara University, for example, has a D1 tennis team. The weaker players on the SCU team might be a strong 5.0 player while the stronger players might be a 5.5 to 6.0 level. Probably the minimum level for a D1 scholarship is a 5.5 level. Not that many D1 players are strong enough to make it in the pros. The cream of the collegiate player might have a chance.

Note that players outside of the top 400 in the world are generally not 7.0 players. It is rare that a current D1 player would be able to compete with players in the top 300. Therefore, the top D1 players would usually be closer to a 6.0 or 6.5 level.

http://assets.usta.com/assets/1/15/G...Guidelines.pdf

President 01-13-2013 01:43 PM

A San Diego 4.0 can make mincemeat of any D1 player.

WildVolley 01-13-2013 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by dominikk1985 (Post 7116230)
5.0 is a little low, isn't it?

or would you say that john isner or the bryans were only 5.0-5.5 players?

wouldn't 6.0 to 7.0 be more acurate?

Watch some Division 1 tennis and you'll realize that Isner and the Bryan brothers are much better than the average Division 1 player. I was under the impression that a Division 1 player is normally considered a 5.5 player unless there is evidence otherwise. The best players are/are approaching 7.0s. The worst players at D1 are probably 5.0s. There are some D1 players who have ugly games but they are almost all very consistent.

tennis_balla 01-13-2013 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by President (Post 7117072)
A San Diego 4.0 can make mincemeat of any D1 player.

Only if he posts on TTW

t135 01-13-2013 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Tayytennis (Post 7115287)
does anybody know what rating is required to get into a american university and play division 1 tennis?

Top 2 or 3 in your country, ITF ranking, some pro tournament experience. And last but not least, a passing TOEFL score if you are not from an English speaking country. You also need to do all the NCAA clearinghouse paperwork on time. Those last two send a lot of players to NJCAA.

That's just the tennis part.

tennis_balla 01-14-2013 01:42 AM

Top 2 or 3 in your country? For college? Come on guys, please don't offer advice like this.


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