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BeHappy 01-12-2013 05:31 PM

Tomic worst athlete ever?
 
Of any ATP top 100 professional that is.

110mph serve and he cannot move.

Bartelby 01-12-2013 05:50 PM

He is now moving better than Anderson or Raonic, if that means anything.

Sabratha 01-12-2013 06:21 PM

He has a good game, but his form lacked in the 2012 season. Hopefully he can continue to be fit for the 2013 season and get back into the top 30 by year's end.

RAFA2005RG 01-12-2013 07:54 PM

Tomic floats like Federer. Neither look like they are exerting energy, yet they both cover the court exceptionally well.

rafafan20 01-12-2013 07:55 PM

I've seen Tomic play live and he actually moves very well when healthy

edmondsm 01-12-2013 08:00 PM

Athleticism is tough to judge with tennis. I mean Agassi probably wasn't that great an athlete by any measurable standard. But holy hell did he have hand-eye coordination.

FedError 01-12-2013 08:09 PM

97% service games won in Sydney... not bad for a 110mph serve

nikdom 01-12-2013 08:09 PM

Anticipation and quickness are lacking. If that's what counts as athleticism in tennis, then yeah he's not a great athlete.

TheCheese 01-12-2013 08:22 PM

He's not the quickest, but I think he positions himself well and is good at placing the ball in places that cut down his opponent's options.

nethawkwenatchee 01-12-2013 08:27 PM

Not a good athlete? I'm quickly becoming a fan of Bernie's game. Check him running down a lob and hitting an unbelievable winner, in scorching heat, against Florian Mayer this week.
http://youtu.be/g0NSjem4exY?t=1m39s

vandre 01-12-2013 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by edmondsm (Post 7115804)
Athleticism is tough to judge with tennis. I mean Agassi probably wasn't that great an athlete by any measurable standard. But holy hell did he have hand-eye coordination.

as an aa fanboy, even i cannot deny the truth of this statement.

to say that tomic is the worst athlete ever is a bit much. i don't even think he's the worst athlete currently in the game. i've seen him move very well in the past so maybe he's just a little knicked up or was out of sorts for a match or something.

i think there are probably worst athletes on the atp tour right now (some of which might be ranked higher than tomic) but if you are supremely talented than can offset some lack of innate athletic ability.

Bartelby 01-12-2013 08:30 PM

His movement has improved over the off season with his new trainer.

t135 01-12-2013 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by RAFA2005RG (Post 7115798)
Tomic floats like Federer. Neither look like they are exerting energy, yet they both cover the court exceptionally well.

Ditto. You don't get his results with his game without great movement. Maybe not GOAT movement, but great nonetheless.

Sid_Vicious 01-12-2013 11:46 PM

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Originally Posted by RAFA2005RG (Post 7115798)
Tomic floats like Federer. Neither look like they are exerting energy, yet they both cover the court exceptionally well.

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Originally Posted by t135 (Post 7115852)
Ditto. You don't get his results with his game without great movement. Maybe not GOAT movement, but great nonetheless.

That is absolutely absurd. Tomic's movement is horrendous compared to Federer's. Tomic is simply not among the "great" movers on tour like Djokovic, Murray,Nadal, Ferrer etc.

With that said, he is not even close to being the worst athlete ever. BeHappy is probably trolling agin.

dominikk1985 01-13-2013 01:21 AM

he does move well for his height. of course he doesn't move like ferrer but don't forget he is like 6"5.

his serve is indeed terrible mechanically. it usually gets the job done but it is totally WTA style technically. He opens up too early and doesn't properly sequence his body. You can see that he is not a natural thrower. you rarely see something like that in the top200 in the world.

heninfan99 01-13-2013 06:16 AM

No. It takes the reflexes of a cat to drive that orange BMW of his on a wild chase from the authorities.

I see now he had to put it up for auction. Sad.

joeri888 01-13-2013 08:09 AM

Particularly americans, but actually all people on these boards are obsessed with athleticism and how much somebody benchpresses or runs a 100 metres. I think with talented players, this is the LEAST interesting aspect. The fact that Tomic is a top 100 pro and on a good day a top 20 one, tells you that this guy is insanely talented. His body is clearly underdeveloped and athleticism is the most trainable aspect of being a tennisplayer. At this age, relearning strokes, hand eye coordination, mental fortitude, or a good serve are all way harder to develop. I think this makes Tomic a particularly good prospect. He's got the raw talent, but just needs to work hard physically. If he does, he's future top 10 or top 5.

always_crosscourt 01-13-2013 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by joeri888 (Post 7116541)
Particularly americans, but actually all people on these boards are obsessed with athleticism and how much somebody benchpresses or runs a 100 metres. I think with talented players, this is the LEAST interesting aspect. The fact that Tomic is a top 100 pro and on a good day a top 20 one, tells you that this guy is insanely talented. His body is clearly underdeveloped and athleticism is the most trainable aspect of being a tennisplayer. At this age, relearning strokes, hand eye coordination, mental fortitude, or a good serve are all way harder to develop. I think this makes Tomic a particularly good prospect. He's got the raw talent, but just needs to work hard physically. If he does, he's future top 10 or top 5.

It's the opposite - why do you think the NFL recruits based almost exclusively on stats such as 40 yard dash, max squat, max deadlift, 225 bench press test and vertical jump height?

It's because they know that these qualities are the most important aspects of any sport. Select athletes that are good at these, and the rest will follow. Skills, tactics and vision are secondary and can always be developed later.

Sid_Vicious 01-13-2013 09:20 AM

looks like that tennisfan182 troll is back.

batz 01-13-2013 09:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Sid_Vicious (Post 7116647)
looks like that tennisfan182 troll is back.

Surprised it took you this long Sid.


He doesn't half post some *****.


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