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WARPWOODIE 01-22-2013 04:52 PM

Need help with Russian made racquet
 
I found a racquet today which I need help identifying and for specs.
On the racquet/loop are these characters:
nporpeec
On the mono neck:
rnabcnoptnpom
Anyone familiar with this racquet?
No strings on it and am wondering if there are shared holes for stringing?
Thanks in advance for any information!

PhotoBlue 01-22-2013 05:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WARPWOODIE (Post 7149826)
I found a racquet today which I need help identifying and for specs.
On the racquet/loop are these characters:
nporpeec
On the mono neck:
rnabcnoptnpom
Anyone familiar with this racquet?
No strings on it and am wondering if there are shared holes for stringing?
Thanks in advance for any information!

Does it look more like "прогреес" and "гпавспортпром"?

WARPWOODIE 01-22-2013 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by PhotoBlue (Post 7149975)
Does it look more like "прогреес" and "гпавспортпром"?

Yes. It is aqua green in color with tear drop shaped head.

Kalin 01-23-2013 06:39 AM

Well, "прогреcс" means 'Progress' and it must be the racquet's name while "гпавспортпром" (Glavsportprom) is a typical Russian-language monstrosity of an abbreviation meaning 'Main (or Central) Sports Enterprise' so it is the maker's name.

I'm not sure if this helps at all :(

WARPWOODIE 01-23-2013 06:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Kalin (Post 7153326)
Well, "прогреcс" means 'Progress' and it must be the racquet's name while "гпавспортпром" (Glavsportprom) is a typical Russian-language monstrosity of an abbreviation meaning 'Main (or Central) Sports Enterprise' so it is the maker's name.

I'm not sure if this helps at all :(

Thanks Kalin! Any information is helpful. Anyway, I was checking around and found "80's tennis racquets"...basically, the racquet is very similar to the Fisher SuperForms and Kneissel Red Star. It appears that they have shared holes for stringing. It is in mint condition and was never strung. When I asked the lady at the Goodwill if she could give me discount because it lacked strings, she agreed and sold it to me for $3.00:) It would be interesting to know the relative value of it now...being that this is an 80's racquet, the latter part of the cold war era.

Kalin 01-23-2013 07:03 AM

Found a link at rambler.ru (just paste 'прогреcс главспортпром теннис' in the Search box)

http://krsk.24au.ru/1913634/

The seller says it is 'made in the USSR under Kneissl Austria license'

Edit: seems they also made the 'Giant' (Гигант)!

http://emarket.ua/objavlenie/tennisn...m-ID1pEWf.html

Is this an Estusa/Puma shape??

WARPWOODIE 01-23-2013 07:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Kalin (Post 7153402)
Found a link at rambler.ru (just paste 'прогреcс главспортпром теннис' in the Search box)

http://krsk.24au.ru/1913634/

The seller says it is 'made in the USSR under Kneissl Austria license'

Edit: seems they also made the 'Giant' (Гигант)!

http://emarket.ua/objavlenie/tennisn...m-ID1pEWf.html

Is this an Estusa/Puma shape??

Thanks again! Yea, the first link is the racquet I have. It seems to be a midsize head. Will string tonight...should be fun to hit with. BTW, also with the purchase came the head cover...also plastered in Russian:?

maxpotapov 01-23-2013 08:37 AM

I believe it was licensed from Kneissl. The first graphite/fiberglass composite racquet made in USSR. It was quite challenging to play with, like with any mono I suppose.

BorgCash 01-23-2013 08:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Kalin (Post 7153402)
Found a link at rambler.ru (just paste 'прогреcс главспортпром теннис' in the Search box)

http://krsk.24au.ru/1913634/

The seller says it is 'made in the USSR under Kneissl Austria license'

Edit: seems they also made the 'Giant' (Гигант)!

http://emarket.ua/objavlenie/tennisn...m-ID1pEWf.html

Is this an Estusa/Puma shape??

There were three types of racquets produced in former Soviet Union under Kneissl license: Master (White Star Pro), Progress (Blue Star Mid) and Gigant
(Red Star Big). First they looked like real Kneissl with its original brand name written on, later the quality got down and the racquets got russian names. They were very popular back then because you couldn't afford good quality tennis racquet in the USSR (except somebody brought it from abroad).
I have some of these racquets, will share the pictures next week.

BorgCash 01-23-2013 08:49 AM

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Originally Posted by WARPWOODIE (Post 7153539)
Thanks again! Yea, the first link is the racquet I have. It seems to be a midsize head. Will string tonight...should be fun to hit with. BTW, also with the purchase came the head cover...also plastered in Russian:?

First covers were Kneissl original, then there were soviet-made covers from factory in Kiev, Ukraine.

Love50 01-23-2013 09:02 AM

Speaking of Russian racquets... does anyone know anything about a racquet made by Xokken (I believe that is "hockey" in Russian with the proper Cyrillic spelling). Looks like a Wilson Profile clone.

BorgCash 01-23-2013 09:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Love50 (Post 7153781)
Speaking of Russian racquets... does anyone know anything about a racquet made by Xokken (I believe that is "hockey" in Russian with the proper Cyrillic spelling). Looks like a Wilson Profile clone.

Hockey in russian will be Хоккей.
Can you post the picture please?

BorgCash 01-23-2013 10:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Love50 (Post 7153781)
Speaking of Russian racquets... does anyone know anything about a racquet made by Xokken (I believe that is "hockey" in Russian with the proper Cyrillic spelling). Looks like a Wilson Profile clone.

There is an " Experimental Factory "Hockey" in Moscow, which produced mostly hockey sticks and some tennis racquets.

Love50 01-23-2013 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by BorgCash (Post 7153806)
Hockey in russian will be Хоккей.
Can you post the picture please?

http://i1305.photobucket.com/albums/...ps5c0983c4.jpg

The middle one.

BorgCash 01-23-2013 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Love50 (Post 7154209)

I see, there is Композит (Composite material) written on.
I think the racquet is not good for playing, like a piece of plastic, may be i'm wrong.
See nice old Fischer (Superform model?), what is on the top?

Love50 01-23-2013 11:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BorgCash (Post 7154243)
I see, there is Композит (Composite material) written on.
I think the racquet is not good for playing, like a piece of plastic, may be i'm wrong.
See nice old Fischer (Superform model?), what is on the top?

Thanks for the translation!

I would agree with you about the playability :) The construction looks cheap and I didn't like how it swings. If any collector wants it for free (so that they can say they have a Russian racquet), drop me a note.

Not sure why I bought it, must have been to take advantage of bundled shipping from Europe...

The racquet at the top is a MAG-I T201 from Tremont Research out of Chicago. It's a composite sandwich racquet similar to the Head stuff that Arthur Ashe used.

Kalin 01-23-2013 06:20 PM

I like the colour of the Composite model, though! Seems like a nice paintjob. We need more olive-green racquets

BorgCash 01-23-2013 07:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Love50 (Post 7154282)
Thanks for the translation!

I would agree with you about the playability :) The construction looks cheap and I didn't like how it swings. If any collector wants it for free (so that they can say they have a Russian racquet), drop me a note.

Not sure why I bought it, must have been to take advantage of bundled shipping from Europe...

The racquet at the top is a MAG-I T201 from Tremont Research out of Chicago. It's a composite sandwich racquet similar to the Head stuff that Arthur Ashe used.

Never heard about this racquet company. Was it a small one?

BorgCash 01-23-2013 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Kalin (Post 7155450)
I like the colour of the Composite model, though! Seems like a nice paintjob. We need more olive-green racquets

I think they used the paint that was at the factory at that moment.

We have a lot of different composite soviet/russian-built racquets here in Moscow, but the real good were only that licenced Kneissls.
Progress and Giant are quite common, the rarest one is Master.

BorgCash 01-23-2013 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by WARPWOODIE (Post 7153359)
Thanks Kalin! Any information is helpful. Anyway, I was checking around and found "80's tennis racquets"...basically, the racquet is very similar to the Fisher SuperForms and Kneissel Red Star. It appears that they have shared holes for stringing. It is in mint condition and was never strung. When I asked the lady at the Goodwill if she could give me discount because it lacked strings, she agreed and sold it to me for $3.00:) It would be interesting to know the relative value of it now...being that this is an 80's racquet, the latter part of the cold war era.

The typical price for it here in Moscow is about $10-17.
The racquets were produced in 1989-92 as i remember.
During the production time the quality decreased, so the best were made in 1989-90.


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