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Magnus 01-26-2013 10:41 PM

If you blame Azarenka, You need to blame Rafa as well
 
Seriously, stop the double standards. Nadal has started the whole fake injury fiasco and did it time after time against multiple opponents. Its how he won Wimbledon 2010, its how he won Hamburg 2008, FO11, etc.

The guy has used those tactics to his advantage many, many times. Since it was proved so succsesful other players have started embracing it and now we have a sport full of cheaters, both in ATP and WTA. Azarenka is just another cheater.

FedererDropShot 01-26-2013 10:45 PM

lol.

10chars.

veroniquem 01-26-2013 10:48 PM

Everybody takes MTOs. Blame Li Na. She took 2 MTOs, one of them in the middle of Aza's service game. It takes some nerves to complain about Vika after that.

FedererDropShot 01-26-2013 10:52 PM

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Originally Posted by veroniquem (Post 7169105)
Everybody takes MTOs. Blame Li Na. She took 2 MTOs, one of them in the middle of Aza's service game. It takes some nerves to complain about Vika after that.

Li Na took legit MTOs.

And don't try to BS that they weren't legit.

veroniquem 01-26-2013 10:58 PM

If the issue is that it throws the opponent off rhythm, it will do so whether you estimate it's legit or not and it will definitely be worse in the middle of a game. There is no way to evaluate whether breathing issues are more or less legitimate than a bump on the head. It's 100% subjective.

Mike Sams 01-26-2013 10:59 PM

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Originally Posted by veroniquem (Post 7169105)
Everybody takes MTOs. Blame Li Na. She took 2 MTOs, one of them in the middle of Aza's service game. It takes some nerves to complain about Vika after that.

You're weird. :lol:

PhrygianDominant 01-26-2013 11:01 PM

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Originally Posted by veroniquem (Post 7169119)
If the issue is that it throws the opponent off rhythm, it will do so whether you estimate it's legit or not and it will definitely be worse in the middle of a game. There is no way to evaluate whether breathing issues are more or less legitimate than a bump on the head. It's 100% subjective.

Except when the person completely admits to taking and MTO because she was choking in an on court interview, then changes the story afterwards in her presser.

At least Nadal remembers the lies he tells, and when to tell them.

veroniquem 01-26-2013 11:07 PM

She didn't admit that. She said she couldn't breathe. The match video shows that it's exactly what she told the trainer.

Sri 01-26-2013 11:10 PM

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Originally Posted by veroniquem (Post 7169105)
Everybody takes MTOs. Blame Li Na. She took 2 MTOs, one of them in the middle of Aza's service game. It takes some nerves to complain about Vika after that.

Did you miss the part where she fell and her head crashed with the hardcourt surface?

veroniquem 01-26-2013 11:12 PM

That could also be blamed on bad conditioning. It's a player's responsibility to be fit and ready for a match. (Or to wear appropriate sneakers, lol).

DMan 01-26-2013 11:13 PM

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Originally Posted by veroniquem (Post 7169119)
If the issue is that it throws the opponent off rhythm, it will do so whether you estimate it's legit or not and it will definitely be worse in the middle of a game. There is no way to evaluate whether breathing issues are more or less legitimate than a bump on the head. It's 100% subjective.

No it's not. Azarenka and Nadal are absolute proven cheats. Azarenka the biggest one of all. She lied about having an injury. It wasn't subjective at all. But then again, those who defend Azarenka demonstrate that they cheat themselves, and they think it's alright.

DMan 01-26-2013 11:14 PM

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Originally Posted by veroniquem (Post 7169148)
That could also be blamed on bad conditioning. It's a player's responsibility to be fit and ready for a match. (Or to wear appropriate sneakers, lol).

So Azarenka wasn't in condition, after only 80 minutes of play?

As opposed to Li Na running and turning her ankle, twice?

veroniquem 01-26-2013 11:15 PM

Azarenka didn't fall.

veroniquem 01-26-2013 11:17 PM

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Originally Posted by DMan (Post 7169152)
No it's not. Azarenka and Nadal are absolute proven cheats. Azarenka the biggest one of all. She lied about having an injury. It wasn't subjective at all. But then again, those who defend Azarenka demonstrate that they cheat themselves, and they think it's alright.



Repeating the same unfounded accusation a thousand times doesn't make it any more true

DMan 01-26-2013 11:35 PM

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Originally Posted by veroniquem (Post 7169160)
Repeating the same unfounded accusation a thousand times doesn't make it any more true

Kinda like Armstrong denying the same accusation that he cheated a thousand times! Didn't make his lies become the truth!

jokinla 01-26-2013 11:47 PM

I blame Rafa too no doubt.

Tennis_Hands 01-27-2013 12:18 AM

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Originally Posted by veroniquem (Post 7169148)
(Or to wear appropriate sneakers, lol).

Your cynical attitude is nothing short of disgusting. Even more so, considering the fact, that you find an excuse for the questionable (at best) behaviour of your favourite tennis player, when it comes to MTOs.

Magnus 01-27-2013 12:48 AM

To be honest, while I like Li Na and was rooting for her, I couldn't shake the feeling that if she was really that hurt, she should have stopped playing. If its not career-threatning injury, she should not be able to get treatment and just move on. Those MTOs have become a joke. Players are now using them as a bonus rather than a real treatment to a problem. It:

a) Gives them a nice treatment
b) Stops the opponent's momentum and annoys them
c) allows them to get a breather

Nadal started the fiasco, and now its out of control.

Sentinel 01-27-2013 12:50 AM

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Originally Posted by veroniquem (Post 7169148)
That could also be blamed on bad conditioning. It's a player's responsibility to be fit and ready for a match. (Or to wear appropriate sneakers, lol).

You are talking about Nads, are ya ? I thought he was very fit.

Magnus 01-27-2013 12:51 AM

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Originally Posted by veroniquem (Post 7169148)
That could also be blamed on bad conditioning. It's a player's responsibility to be fit and ready for a match. (Or to wear appropriate sneakers, lol).

Tell that to your hypocrite idol Rafa. You were using excuses such as "he was tired" or "he was injured" or my personal favorite "he had a stomach virus" NONSTOP when he was losing. Seriously, do you read what you write? There is ZERO sync between your posts.


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