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Phoenix1983 01-27-2013 04:22 AM

Where would you rank Djokovic now?
 
After winning his sixth slam and becoming the AO GOAT (4 titles, including 3 consecutive), where would you rank Djokovic among Open Era greats? *

As well as his slams, he has two years as world No 1, two YECs and has won 7 of the 9 Masters series events.

For me, Djokovic is now ahead of Wilander, Becker and Edberg.

He is still a bit short of the Lendl/Connors/Agassi/McEnroe tier though (and some way short of Fed/Sampras/Borg/Nadal).

Thus I would rank him 9th in the Open Era at present.

* Players who played their whole career in the Open Era.

Prisoner of Birth 01-27-2013 04:24 AM

I normally rank players based on what I see them finishing with (which I admit is probably the wrong approach to it). And honestly, I see Djokovic being probably the 5th GOAT in my list by the time he's done, behind Federer, Nadal, Sampras and Borg.

Bobby Jr 01-27-2013 04:36 AM

Match spoiler.

Mods, please move the thread.

forzamilan90 01-27-2013 04:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Bobby Jr (Post 7171028)
Match spoiler.

Mods, please move the thread.

A few other threads give the outcome as well, no need to close this thread

forzamilan90 01-27-2013 04:53 AM

He's better than Becker, Edberg, Wilander right now. Has very high ceiling, could reach double figures and could be top 5 open era

Gonzo_style 01-27-2013 04:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Phoenix1983 (Post 7170975)

For me, Djokovic is now ahead of Wilander, Becker and Edberg.

I agree.

Now 10 Major titles seems very possible...

dominikk1985 01-27-2013 04:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Prisoner of Birth (Post 7170982)
I normally rank players based on what I see them finishing with (which I admit is probably the wrong approach to it). And honestly, I see Djokovic being probably the 5th GOAT in my list by the time he's done, behind Federer, Nadal, Sampras and Borg.

ahead of laver and connors?

IMO he must win at least win 10 majors to pass connors (yeah I know he has 8 but he has a lot more weeks at one and tournament wins-yeah a lot of them were mickey mouse) and 15 to pass laver (who won 2 CYGS and would have easily won 18+ if not for his break from the majors due to turning pro).

Phoenix1983 01-27-2013 05:01 AM

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Originally Posted by dominikk1985 (Post 7171105)
ahead of laver and connors?

IMO he must win at least win 10 majors to pass connors (yeah I know he has 8 but he has a lot more weeks at one and tournament wins-yeah a lot of them were mickey mouse) and 15 to pass laver (who won 2 CYGS and would have easily won 18+ if not for his break from the majors due to turning pro).

I'm excluding Laver (and Rosewall/Newcombe).

This is about players who competed solely in the Open Era.

tennis_pro 01-27-2013 05:09 AM

Djokovic could very well reach Nadal's current numbers by the time he's done. 10 majors looking very possible at the moment.

lvuong 01-27-2013 05:09 AM

A bit too early to rate him now. But should be pretty high when he is done.

tennisaddict 01-27-2013 06:09 AM

I think Djokovic may end with 10 or 11 majors, he will be ranked above Nadal, due to the variety of slams he will achieve.

Also weeks at No 1, YEC will add to his resume over Nadal. His final wins at majors have all / will be against the top 3 , which is a huge plus, showing his mental strength in big matches.

He will rank above Borg as well due to the career slam. He will fall short of Fed and Sampras.

Clarky21 01-27-2013 06:13 AM

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Originally Posted by tennisaddict (Post 7171297)
I think Djokovic may end with 10 or 11 majors, he will be ranked above Nadal, due to the variety of slams he will achieve. Also weeks at No 1, YEC will add to his resume over Nadal. His final wins at majors have all / will be against the top 3 , which is a huge plus, showing his mental strength in big matches.

He will rank above Borg as well due to the career slam. He will fall short of Fed and Sampras.


5 of Lance's 6 majors have come on hardcourt. How is that variety?

tennisaddict 01-27-2013 06:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Clarky21 (Post 7171303)
5 of Lance's 6 majors have come on hardcourt. How is that variety?

He will get the FO this year or next for sure. Given Nadal's injury and Murray on clay, it is not far fetched to think his next 4 or 5 majors, include 1/2 FO and 2 AO and 1 more USO.

NatF 01-27-2013 06:18 AM

Djokovic is a hardcourt beast no doubt, but he still has time to change that.

President 01-27-2013 06:23 AM

One of the best players ever, I think he'll end his career being on the level of players like Lendl and Conners.

tennisaddict 01-27-2013 06:24 AM

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Originally Posted by President (Post 7171329)
One of the best players ever, I think he'll end his career being on the level of players like Lendl and Conners.

100% certain he will end up with a better resume than them. No mean achievement.

Clarky21 01-27-2013 06:27 AM

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Originally Posted by tennisaddict (Post 7171313)
He will get the FO this year or next for sure. Given Nadal's injury and Murray on clay, it is not far fetched to think his next 4 or 5 majors, include 1/2 FO and 2 AO and 1 more USO.

Even if he does win 2 RG titles, that would still put him at having only 3 slams off of hardcourts. Nadal has 4 slams off of clay and people still don't think that enough, so Lance having only 3 off of his best surface certainly does not cut it.

tennisaddict 01-27-2013 06:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Clarky21 (Post 7171341)
Even if he does win 2 RG titles, that would still put him at having only 3 slams off of hardcourts. Nadal has 4 slams off of clay and people still don't think that enough, so Lance having only 3 off of his best surface certainly does not cut it.

I think it is more likely that Novak ends up being a multi major winner at all 4 slams - not something Nadal has achieved or for that matter even Fed.

President 01-27-2013 06:31 AM

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Originally Posted by tennisaddict (Post 7171333)
100% certain he will end up with a better resume than them. No mean achievement.

Hard to say that, Ivan Lendl made 19 slam finals and Conners won an insane number of titles (as did Lendl) and was number one for a very long time, all while maintaining a very high career winning percentage playing into his late 30s. I think he will be on a similar level, but it's difficult to look so far into the future.

Sid_Vicious 01-27-2013 06:55 AM

I think Djokovic needs to diversify his resume; it is off balance now with 4 AOs , 1 USO, and 1 Wimbledon. Djokovic needs another Wimbledon or USO. He is so good at the AO that he can be called a plexicushion specialist


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