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sandiegoman 01-27-2013 09:52 PM

Getting bored with two handed bh - thinking about changing
 
My two handed bh has never been a weapon.... it's always so flat. I've been experimenting with a 1 hander and it's pretty fun. I get way more topspin and feel like I can rip it when I hit it right.

Has anyone switched recently?

mikeler 01-28-2013 05:51 AM

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Originally Posted by sandiegoman (Post 7173598)
My two handed bh has never been a weapon.... it's always so flat. I've been experimenting with a 1 hander and it's pretty fun. I get way more topspin and feel like I can rip it when I hit it right.

Has anyone switched recently?

I started out as a junior with a 2 handed backhand but I wanted more spin. So I played with a 1 hander for most of my adult life until injuries forced me back to a 2 hander last summer. Yes it is flatter but there are certainly advantages and disadvantages to both.

rkelley 01-28-2013 06:34 AM

A big thing that helped me get more topspin on my 2 hander was switching my left hand grip from E to SW. The other thing was really letting it be a left handed forehand - letting my left hand really control the racquet. I still can't get as much spin as I can on my fh, but it's a good shot that has margin and will push people back when I'm hitting it well.

That said, I was on the wall yesterday. Hit 1 handers for a few minutes. It's really fun. Great feeling, lots of spin - very free and powerful. The problem is the wall doesn't dish out pace and spin like a real player.

JackB1 01-28-2013 06:41 AM

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Originally Posted by sandiegoman (Post 7173598)
My two handed bh has never been a weapon.... it's always so flat. I've been experimenting with a 1 hander and it's pretty fun. I get way more topspin and feel like I can rip it when I hit it right.

Has anyone switched recently?

I recently changed and not regretting it yet. A am very righty dominant and the 1 hander FEELS so much more natural than the 2 hander. My 2 hander was always just OK. But with 1 hand, I can get more pace and topspin, but I must have time to set up and hit it. So what I do is slice when I don't have enough time and hit a 1 hander when I do. I also sometimes keep the 2 hander for quick punch/block serve returns.

texacali 01-28-2013 06:48 AM

I also grew up using two hander (the Borg influence) but as I got older and re-entered tennis, I switched to a one hander....it does feel more natural. I use primarily slice right now, but if I am feeling good about my game, I will start using the backhand drive. Watching Sampras, Federer, and other one handed BH players inspires me.

SELFMADESOUL 01-28-2013 08:05 AM

I love the one-handed backhand and switched to the two-handed a few years back - the key for me is really letting the left hand do the work, which is counter-intuitive for those who started with the one-handed backhand. It was worth the switch for me - my backhand, esp on returns, is much more solid with two-handed and overall it’s a more reliable shot for me. I still whip the one-hander out for a winner when stretched out wide ala Tsonga to keep it alive though :-)

rkelley 01-28-2013 08:51 AM

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Originally Posted by sandiegoman (Post 7173598)
My two handed bh has never been a weapon.... it's always so flat. I've been experimenting with a 1 hander and it's pretty fun. I get way more topspin and feel like I can rip it when I hit it right.

Has anyone switched recently?

Missed the question at the end.

My 17 year old son recently switched from 2hbh to 1hbh - about 4 months ago. His 2hbh was a good shot, but he wanted to try the 1hbh. He took to it very quickly. He adjusted his right hand grip from cont. to around an E. bh. When it's on, which is a lot of the time, he can hit hard, with lots of spin when he wants to, take short balls aggressively, and hit across high balls. He will have periods where he dumps 10 in a row into the net, and he overhits it some times. It's still a work in progress, but that's mostly a matter of him getting out to practice it. He can definitely rip it, which is the thing he really likes about it. He's also always been a very right handed person, not ambidextrous so much.

slowfox 01-28-2013 09:14 AM

Ladies are impressed by a nice 1hbh. So if you can't afford a Porsche...

10isfreak 01-28-2013 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by mikeler (Post 7174147)
I started out as a junior with a 2 handed backhand but I wanted more spin. So I played with a 1 hander for most of my adult life until injuries forced me back to a 2 hander last summer. Yes it is flatter but there are certainly advantages and disadvantages to both.

For some reasons, I am wondering exactly what your grip looked like back then. I know it was less conservative than most players, but I'd like to see what it was like.

As to answer OP here, I switched back and forth a few times. When the shot is grooved, it's not a problem hitting it... it's a shot like any other, actually.

BevilDevil highlighted people's tendency to fool around with their wrists on a thread I started about one handed backhands. He's right about it being an issue: many players do this on either side of their body, trying to give it a little extra. The problem is that, while you can rotate your wrist at contact( pronation or supination, depending on the stroke), you can't play around with flexions and extensions without messing up. It's not the only thing amateurs do not do properly... it's seems like the common perception of this stroke being "so hard" to learn and play stems from how they learn it.

LeeD 01-28-2013 01:30 PM

Most of us dallied with the 2hbh for a while, then switched.
Some of us dallied with a 1hbh, switched to 2, then back to one.
Notice Tsonga vs Fed is toying with 1hbh passing shots, and missing mostly.
Just maintain a closed stance, hit well out in front, and mostly CC.

mikeler 01-28-2013 01:35 PM

Here was my normal grip. I'd turn it more if I had time to setup and really come over it:


Nellie 01-28-2013 02:04 PM

I think you could "fix" the 2-hander for better power/topspin way more easily than you could ever learn a new 1-handed backhand.

dominikk1985 01-28-2013 02:10 PM

changing something out of boredom is a surefire way to lower your Level of Play:). you become good when your strokes become so boring that you can do them asleep.

doing a stroke because another one bores you is a big reason for losing:) (even @ the pros, see dolgopolov).

that doesn't mean changing to one Hand is bad but if you always Change when you get bored (today feds FH, tomorrow noles FH...) you will never get consistent.

Hi I'm Ray 01-28-2013 10:08 PM

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Originally Posted by sandiegoman (Post 7173598)
My two handed bh has never been a weapon.... it's always so flat. I've been experimenting with a 1 hander and it's pretty fun. I get way more topspin and feel like I can rip it when I hit it right.

Has anyone switched recently?

I played 2H for several years then switched to 1H after a long break. Main reason for switching was the same, I did not feel like it was a weapon. After two years I have started switching back, I found the 1H takes too long to set up & breaks down under pressure too easily, at least for me. Too much of a liability.

If you are not finding enough power and spin, you likely are muscling the 2H too much. If you work on a relaxed, fluid, and fast swing, you'll probably find the RHS, spin, and power you are looking for. If I only knew this before - damn crappy coach.

LuckyR 01-29-2013 08:41 AM

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Originally Posted by sandiegoman (Post 7173598)
My two handed bh has never been a weapon.... it's always so flat. I've been experimenting with a 1 hander and it's pretty fun. I get way more topspin and feel like I can rip it when I hit it right.

Has anyone switched recently?

Are you bored of winning?

gbgTennis 01-29-2013 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by sandiegoman (Post 7173598)
My two handed bh has never been a weapon.... it's always so flat. I've been experimenting with a 1 hander and it's pretty fun. I get way more topspin and feel like I can rip it when I hit it right.

Has anyone switched recently?


I've had this dilemma too for the past one or two years.
My Backhand has always been good and consistent, but my forehand is my weapon. On the Backhand side i very rarely made unforced errors, but i had trouble generating power on my own there. So its effectiveness relied very much on the type of opponent i was playing. Against a hard hitter my backhand became almost as strong of a shot as my forehand, because i find blocking shots and redirecting the pace very easy with the 2hander, but i always felt like it was very easy to push me into my backhand corner, without me being able to do anything about it.

That being said, i switched to a one-hander about 6 months ago. I had been thinking about it for about two years, but was always worried about the outcome, especially with all the new pros having two-handers.
Then disclocated my shoulder in late summer, forcing me to either slice only or switch, which luckily made my decision much easier ;)
I'd say i'm quite talented when it comes to sports in general, and i especially pick up techniques very quick, so after 2 months i felt like i could hit the shot in real matches, so i stopped using only slice then. Probably my injury helped me learn the new shot faster, because the main problem when switching backhands is that people tend to look back a lot and euphemize their old shot, often leading them to not consequently switch to the new one.

Personally i'm very happy with my new shot, the main reason for that is that for me it's so much more fun to hit. When it comes to open rallies, or i'm in the drivers seat i think that the one-hander has already surpassed my old backhand but it definitely has some disadvantages aswell. It's hard to keep playing a drive-backhand when under pressure. My return of serve has become more passive, as i usually slice it back. Generally you need more time to prepare. But if you've got time and space to move, whipping down fluent onehanded backhands is the best thing there is in tennis.

So if fun is the most important thing to you in tennis, i'd suggest just trying it out and see for yourself if you like it better or not.
If you're trying to improve your game by switching i think it can definitely be possible, but often is bad idea. When i'm teaching tennis i usually suggest the onehander only to those who have a really hard time doing stuff like catching/throwing balls with their weak arm, because that often is a sign that their just not very coordinated with it. Also i feel like the one handed backhand is most effective on hardcourts, because only there you will get an consistent bounce, and last-second adjustments are way easier with two hands.
The last point, but maybe the most important one you have to consider is what type of player you are. If you're an allcourt player who likes to play aggressive, with lots of variety and you like to come to the net alot, all those things will really benefit from a one-handed backhand. Especially your slice and bh volley will improve by a great deal.
If you're more of a (counter-)pusher, or a strict baseliner, i feel like the downsides of the onehanded backhands are hard to cancel out.


Anyways, i hope this will help you get a little insight in the process of switching, if you have any further questions just let me know.


Greetings

gbgtennis


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