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hyperion99 01-29-2013 03:51 PM

ST-101 Pathfinder Tool
 
Does anybody have any feedback about this tool.
ST-101 Pathfinder(from Eagnas). http://www.eagnas.com/store/product_...products_id=63
Thinking about getting one.
Thanks in advance.

David 110 01-29-2013 04:41 PM

I tried this item. The short length piece is a tube made from some very soft metal which bent the second time it was used. Tried to straighten it, but the tube was deformed when it bent and the tool was completely useless after that.

struggle 01-29-2013 04:59 PM

I have the Gamma pathfinder but have never used it.

I hear they break really easy, hopefully I'll never need one.

esgee48 01-29-2013 05:01 PM

Unfortunately, it is a fragile piece of equipment. Not worth the cost. As others may have suggested, use a scrap piece of string when stringing a main that blocks a cross hole. Use the scrap string to move the blocking string so you can access the grommet.

hyperion99 01-29-2013 05:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by esgee48 (Post 7178686)
Unfortunately, it is a fragile piece of equipment. Not worth the cost. As others may have suggested, use a scrap piece of string when stringing a main that blocks a cross hole. Use the scrap string to move the blocking string so you can access the grommet.

Thanks.
Is there any other tool similar to this?

Lakers4Life 01-29-2013 07:11 PM

Both the Gamma and the Eagnas pathfinder tools are useless. They are too thick to be of any use. I own both as well, because they came with machines I've owned.

I do however own the Kimony pathfinder. It's much thinner and much more useful than the other two. Except I don't use it either. :confused: I just bought it to complete my set of Kimony Awls.

The bottom two pictured. The silicone sleeve is just to keep the two pieces together.

Irvin 01-29-2013 09:48 PM

I used my pathfinder awl quite a bit over the last few years. More often than not when using the awl you insert it from the inside out not like it's shown in the Eagnas photos. This means if you have the Eagnas you have it resting up against the stringbed. Looks like it is going to be difficult to use and prone to bending. I would go with the Gamma.

Unless you have a shared hole the only time you would have two strings in one grommet is for tie off and the always go in from the outside.

andtapes 01-30-2013 12:31 AM

I have the gamma (I had 2, both broke so I bought the 3rd one), the kimony and ST101. I prefer the ST, I have mine for 5 years or more. When I bought mine it cost $12. But it was long time ago!! LOL It was cheaper at the time, but I think it is the better!

kkm 01-30-2013 01:17 AM

IMHO pathfinder awls are not worth buying. The Gamma version is poor. I have the Kimony (as with Lakers4Life I have it just as part of the complete Kimony set), and never use it. If a grommet hole is going to be blocked I just enlarge it before mounting the racquet.

wrxtotoro 01-31-2013 10:27 AM

I bought one just for fun and it's pretty useless. A scrap piece of thick poly will do the job.

Irvin 01-31-2013 11:50 AM

Why do you guys think pathfinder awls are useless? How do you break them? I will admit they are best used as a proactive tool and not in a reactive situation. For instance. If you have a 16 main racket that skips 7&9T and your mains tie off at 8T you should realize you may have some trouble getting the tail in 8T for tie off so insert the pathfinder awl in 8T before you put in the 7th main. When you are ready to tie off slide the handle back and insert the string in the pathfinder awl tube. Side the awl out and you're done. That awl will slide out just as easy as a scrap piece of string. Wax the outside and it slides out even easier. the beauty of this awl is it pulls your string with it. What is so hard about that?

Irvin 01-31-2013 12:00 PM

Another example is when you 16 main racket that skips 7&9T and your mains tie off at 6T. Now you going to have two strings blocking 7T. Put the awl in before you run the 7th main run one string under the awl and the other over. When you're ready to tie off slide the handle back insert the tail to be tied off and remove the awl.

In this situation you will have a blocked hole (7T) on each side of the racket so a second pathfinder awl will be useful. For those of you that have one and don't want it let me know.

Irvin 01-31-2013 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Irvin (Post 7182741)
Another example is when you 16 main racket that skips 7&9T and your mains tie off at 6T. Now you going to have two strings blocking 7T. Put the awl in before you run the 7th main run one string under the awl and the other over. When you're ready to tie off slide the handle back insert the tail to be tied off and remove the awl.

In this situation you will have a blocked hole (7T) on each side of the racket so a second pathfinder awl will be useful. For those of you that have one and don't want it let me know.

EDIT: Maybe in this situation the ST model where you can take the handle off would be useful as it gets it out of the way. Just remember one goes outside in while the other goes inside out (opposite direction of the string.) if you get them both in the wrong way run in the bottom cross before the one above it.

Sorry for the double post can't get used to the iPad and Tapatalk.

mikeler 02-01-2013 05:10 AM

My Gamma pathfinder awl did not break but it is bent.

Irvin 02-01-2013 06:39 AM

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Originally Posted by mikeler (Post 7184039)
My Gamma pathfinder awl did not break but it is bent.

I can't believe I just thought of this proactive method. I used to always used my pathfinder as a last resort to a blocked hole. I was always very careful thouh and usually put gulf wax on it before using it and tried to always make sure I was not pointing it directly into the string blocking the hole. I have probably used mine at least 25 times but it is still as good as new.

mikeler 02-01-2013 06:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Irvin (Post 7184190)
I can't believe I just thought of this proactive method. I used to always used my pathfinder as a last resort to a blocked hole. I was always very careful thouh and usually put gulf wax on it before using it and tried to always make sure I was not pointing it directly into the string blocking the hole. I have probably used mine at least 25 times but it is still as good as new.

I should note that I have not used it in years. I like using a tiny allen wrench better when I need to clear a blocked hole. The end is not sharp but it will still get through and widen the area for the string.

Irvin 02-01-2013 07:04 AM

I would not use an Allen wrench on the bottom cross tie off on a Prince O3 White. There is no grommet an Allen wrench under pressure is sure to damage the inside of the hole.

Also the awl should go in first so there is no blockage, then the string that will be tensioned to create the block, and finally the string to be tied off goes in the awl. I would still lubricate the awl with wax just as a precaution.

mikeler 02-01-2013 07:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Irvin (Post 7184261)
I would not use an Allen wrench on the bottom cross tie off on a Prince O3 White. There is no grommet an Allen wrench under pressure is sure to damage the inside of the hole.

Also the awl should go in first so there is no blockage, then the string that will be tensioned to create the block, and finally the string to be tied off goes in the awl. I would still lubricate the awl with wax just as a precaution.

Too much work. :) I've never had a problem doing it on the Exo Tours.

Clintspin 02-01-2013 07:32 AM

I had to do a Wilson with power holes yesterday. If the pathfinder would work for finding the grommet hole with those racquets, I would buy it in a heartbeat.

Irvin 02-01-2013 11:27 AM

You only have problem with the power holes going from inside out because you can't see the hole. With the pathfinder you put the awl in from the outside and you can see the hole. But you don't need a pathfinder awl though a small piece of tubing would work as long as it fits in the grommet and the string fits inside the tubing. Maybe a heat shrink tube at Home Depot would work.


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