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OddJack 02-06-2013 07:31 PM

Seven Thoughts for Nadal's Come back
 
4. On the day of Rafa's return, ESPN's Howard Bryant provided a sobering reminder that Nadal's absence wasn't without Controversy

See the other 6 on the link below

http://www.usatoday.com/story/gameon...eback/1896865/

paulorenzo 02-06-2013 09:11 PM

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History also has taught us that if a sport hides rather than confronts, the circumstantial will soon overwhelm the truth. The nonsense of trying to determine which players dope simply through body type, comportment and playing style will become irrefutable fact. The muscles of Serena Williams and Samantha Stosur will be proof of their guilt, as will Djokovic's remarkable stamina and Errani's and Ferrer's unexpected success; Alexandr Dolgopolov weighs only 160 pounds and Roger Federer is a nice guy, so they will be thought clean.

If the players wish to avoid the witch-hunt dynamic that ruined baseball, this is the time to act. During the Australian Open, both men's finalists, Djokovic and Andy Murray, called for increased blood testing and more frequent out-of-competition testing. It was a definitive stance from two of the game's top players -- a stance that none of baseball's best chose to adopt. But in so doing, Djokovic and Murray openly revealed the huge testing loopholes that exist.

link of espn article in OP
not a bad article. it somewhat defends the players who are accused of doping based on speculation.

this is the state of tennis in regards to doping. without sufficient transparency from the top down, there is only speculation to base the answers on when the questions are brought up. the questions will probably always be there. the only way to save players from unfair speculation is to have a change in the system, not the players, in the way testing is handled and the way results are provided. sadly as the article says, like it has happened in other sports, this change likely wont come until a retired Mark Mcguire type player folds. if that came about, the ATP/WTA & ITF are going to be in a lot more trouble than they would have been in the outset.

winstonplum 02-06-2013 10:37 PM

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Originally Posted by paulorenzo (Post 7197070)
not a bad article. it somewhat defends the players who are accused of doping based on speculation.

this is the state of tennis in regards to doping. without sufficient transparency from the top down, there is only speculation to base the answers on when the questions are brought up. the questions will probably always be there. the only way to save players from unfair speculation is to have a change in the system, not the players, in the way testing is handled and the way results are provided. sadly as the article says, like it has happened in other sports, this change likely wont come until a retired Mark Mcguire type player folds. if that came about, the ATP/WTA & ITF are going to be in a lot more trouble than they would have been in the outset.

Howard Bryant is fabulous on tennis. I recommend reading whatever it is he is writing.

Bartelby 02-06-2013 10:45 PM

It's marvellous how it's the players who should be doing something about doping, as if they had something more than an extremely modest say in whatever tennis and governmental authorities do about doping.

raging 02-07-2013 01:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Bartelby (Post 7197172)
It's marvellous how it's the players who should be doing something about doping, as if they had something more than an extremely modest say in whatever tennis and governmental authorities do about doping.

well in the absence of anybody else doing anything about it...
How many Tennis & Doping Officials do you see interviewed?
That will change?is already changing.

sureshs 02-07-2013 06:26 AM

I guess we must all take measures right now to prove that we are not thieves or murderers, because that is our responsibility.

DropShotArtist 02-07-2013 06:32 AM

It's funny how some people can so easily claim a monopoly on the voice of reason from a biased perspective.

The-Champ 02-07-2013 07:47 AM

highlights of Nadal's first match

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5iEZ-XiYkC0

Phoenix1983 02-07-2013 07:59 AM

7 thoughts for Rafa's comeback:

1. Djoker is screwed at the French.
2. Fed is screwed at the French.
3. Murray is screwed at the French.
4. Delpo is screwed at the French.
5. Tsonga is screwed at the French.
6. Only Rosol can beat Rafa at the French.
7. Rosol for French Open champion 2013.

Mike Sams 02-07-2013 08:04 AM

You can say whatever you want but the truth is that Djokovic has admitted he hasn't been tested in 7 months and even then, the testing itself is lame.
Many many athletes in all sports are doping and not being caught. Whether they're even trying to catch these athletes is the question since sports means big business.

The_Order 02-07-2013 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Mike Sams (Post 7197671)
You can say whatever you want but the truth is that Djokovic has admitted he hasn't been tested in 7 months and even then, the testing itself is lame.
Many many athletes in all sports are doping and not being caught. Whether they're even trying to catch these athletes is the question since sports means big business.

You do realise testing isn't the only way to get caught right? Lance (the real one) passed all drug tests.

ViscaB 02-07-2013 09:10 AM

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Originally Posted by The_Order (Post 7197796)
You do realise testing isn't the only way to get caught right? Lance (the real one) passed all drug tests.

And those were bloodtests!

But Lance "failed" a test for EPO in retrospect but they could not use it as evidence since EPO was not on the doping list back then. Back then cyclists did no doping tests but health tests. They only had to make sure they did not pass "50%" in terms of hematocrit.

lidoazndiabloboi 02-07-2013 01:11 PM

I read the OP as "Dwight Howard, Kobe Bryant Controversy"


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