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loverf 02-11-2013 07:57 AM

Hitting flat Vs spin
 
I am a 4.0 player and have been playing for a while about 10 years! always been a flat hitter, was quite haappy with it...but one thing with flat and hard shots, if the other player just blocks and places in the right place, you are in trouble! So, thinking of changing my game to put in some extra spin! Just wondering how difficult its going to be mixing flat and spin! How do you hit ? Please answer the survey.

LeeD 02-11-2013 02:00 PM

A 4.0 should be able to hit heavy topspin looper rally balls whenever he wants, and be able to flatten it out some for a faster moving forcing ball when needed.
Just like a serve, he should be able to hit either a flat fast serve that bounces around thigh high at the backboard and also spin a serve IN 98% of the time with a high bounce for his second serve.
And on the backhand side, a 4.0 also needs a sliced defensive/neutralizer stroke in addition to his topspin passing shot stroke.
The only shot you hit ONE way is a volley. That way is always with a little backspin for height and depth control.
Even you overheads need a flat fast one AND a sidespin slower safer one.

Relinquis 02-11-2013 04:08 PM

the ability to hit both with spin and flat is very useful in so many situations:

- mixing up spins/flat during long rallies in order to force errors by mixing heights of the ball low, waist high & at the shoulders (slice, flat and topspin)

- using spins to hit high % conservative shots during rallies, i.e. can hit a meter or so (depending on spin and court surface) away from the baseline but stay neutral in the rally. allows you to recover and start a new sequence of shots.

- hitting passing shots that dip rapidly below the net.

- drop shots can cause more trouble for your opponent when they have a bit of side-spin.

TheCheese 02-11-2013 08:12 PM

Always with spin. But I vary the trajectory. You can hit a flat trajectory with spin, or a loopy spin ball.

slowfox 02-11-2013 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by LeeD (Post 7207297)
The only shot you hit ONE way is a volley. That way is always with a little backspin for height and depth control.

Or like me who wants to hit 'em one way, but end up mis-hitting in all kinds of unpredictable ways, and sometimes for winners... the dying quails of tennis. Lol

TheCheese 02-11-2013 08:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by slowfox (Post 7208124)
Or like me who wants to hit 'em one way, but end up mis-hitting in all kinds of unpredictable ways, and sometimes for winners... the dying quails of tennis. Lol

I thought you were supposed to hit topspin volleys... :)

firepanda 02-11-2013 10:49 PM

I'm a baseline slugger, but I do whack the ball flat and hard if high enough, just to mix things up.

Jay_The_Nomad 02-12-2013 07:32 AM

Topspin rally ball to move the ball around.

Flat one when the opportunity arises.

mongting 02-13-2013 02:05 PM

I need to work on flat. I only know how to hit spin.

Coach Chad 02-13-2013 07:13 PM

I would say about 75% of the time I hit with spin and 25% flat. It is good to mix up the pace.

Head Pegger 02-13-2013 10:13 PM

Give me a sec while I calculate my percentages

Mick3391 02-13-2013 10:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by loverf (Post 7206522)
I am a 4.0 player and have been playing for a while about 10 years! always been a flat hitter, was quite haappy with it...but one thing with flat and hard shots, if the other player just blocks and places in the right place, you are in trouble! So, thinking of changing my game to put in some extra spin! Just wondering how difficult its going to be mixing flat and spin! How do you hit ? Please answer the survey.

Wrong question, too mechanical. You hit to what presents itself, and every rally is different.

TennisCJC 02-14-2013 08:14 AM

I hit mostly topspin. The spin rate varies a lot. If hitting harder and lower, usually a less spin. If hitting higher over the net rally ball, more spin. But, almost all my FHs have at least a moderate bit of topspin and a majority of my 2 HBHs.

Sometimes slice the backhand for returns, approaches and when stretched. Less frequently slice the FH for returns and when stretched.

My advice is a 4.0 should use topspin for consistency and control. You don't have to use excessive spin. But, I feel much more confident hitting harder if I put topspin on the ball because it helps keep it in the court. It allows you to play aggressively with a safety margin.

ATP100 02-16-2013 02:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by loverf (Post 7206522)
I am a 4.0 player and have been playing for a while about 10 years! always been a flat hitter, was quite haappy with it...but one thing with flat and hard shots, if the other player just blocks and places in the right place, you are in trouble! So, thinking of changing my game to put in some extra spin! Just wondering how difficult its going to be mixing flat and spin! How do you hit ? Please answer the survey.

Might be foot work problem...

Mahboob Khan 02-16-2013 09:49 AM

If you can hit with more topspin you should also be able to hit with less topspin (flat). It's the question of the racket head going up more at contact, or going through contact.

pkshooter 02-17-2013 08:08 PM

I know I always have some kinda top on my ball, but my focus has always been on hitting through the ball. Top spin is just a side effect of my fom.

Relinquis 02-18-2013 06:23 AM

the majority of you guys seem to hit spin most of the time (according the poll)... do you play on hard courts?!

it seems your game woudl be more suited to clay...

xsmasher 02-18-2013 07:44 AM

actually I don't know how to hit flat

mightyrick 02-18-2013 08:17 AM

Ever since I started playing tennis, I have hit very flat and hard with little spin. Flat swing plane. Follow through across the body. Almost zero low-to-high. However, I reached a peak and am unable to beat several 4.0 players. Even though I am highly accurate and hit very hard, 4.0 opponents don't have an issue dealing with my pace.

For that reason, in the last month, I have been reworking my forehand to a topspin forehand. I have changed my grip from an Eastern grip to a Modified/Extreme Eastern. I am learning how to "break" my wrist and make it passive. I am trying to swing very fast and loose with a lot of low-to-high on every shot.

I find myself framing a lot of balls. I have lost matches to several 3.5s who I would have crushed with my flat forehand. But when I hit a heavy topspin shot correctly, none of my opponents have been able to handle it. So I'm sticking with it.

I'm hoping after after a few months of practice and matches, my forehand is effective enough to be able to compete with 4.0s again.

Mahboob Khan 02-19-2013 01:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xsmasher (Post 7222214)
actually I don't know how to hit flat

By flat we mean less spin.

How to hit flat?

Just imagine that you are hitting 4 balls in a row. This will force you to hit through on a straight path and then take off.


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