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Laurie 02-14-2013 12:32 PM

Pete Sampras ‘How to disguise your serve’
 
This is excellent instruction, I should put this thread in the Instruction section if there is one:

http://www.thetennisspace.com/sampra...se-your-serve/

Pete Sampras tells The Tennis Space ‘How to disguise your serve’:
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Practise having the same ball toss for all serves. “I didn’t have the fastest serve, but I did have the best, and the disguise helped. There’s no point serving fast if your opponent knows where the ball is going, that’s worthless. If you can have your opponent guessing, that’s worth a lot. People used to say to me, ‘I just couldn’t read your serve’. If your body shape is always the same, no matter what serve you’re hitting, and your service motion and the position of your racket are always the same too, your opponent is going to find it very difficult to read you. It’s all about your hand, your wrist and your grip. It’s not easy, so the earlier you start practising disguise the better. I did it from a very early age, as a kid, and so that went into my muscles, and my muscles had those memories. That’s why I was able to do that as an adult.”
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Try this drill. “As a kid, my coach would make me do this drill where he would only tell me after I had tossed the ball where he wanted me to hit it. He would shout out, ‘out wide’ or ‘down the middle’ or he would ask me to handcuff the opponent with a body serve. That was great as it meant that my toss was always the same, and I didn’t know myself where I was going to hit it until right until the last moment. You can have some fun with this, waiting until as late as possible before being told where to hit the ball. Do that for hours and hours and you will improve your disguise.”
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Improve your accuracy. “Accuracy is so important. If you can hit your spots, you’re going to cause problems for your opponents.”
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Don’t get hung up on one serve – use as much variety as possible. “I think too many players get too fixated into going for the same spot, and that makes them too predictable, so hit all the serves you can, whether that’s out wide, down the ‘T’ or to the body. And learn to hit all the spins. Mix it up. Of course, I was able to hit the ball hard. But it was mixing it up, and disguising all those serves, that gave me a better package.”

SLD76 02-14-2013 12:38 PM

Its easy..in theory.

President 02-14-2013 12:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Petros Sampras (Post 7214329)
I didn’t have the fastest serve, but I did have the best

LOL humble Petros

Sid_Vicious 02-14-2013 12:41 PM

Great read. Thanks for posting, Laurie.

Pete is definitely right about this. He really had an extraordinary service motion. Whether he was crushing, slicing, or topping the ball, the difference in the swings was so subtle that you could really notice it only in the slow motion.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KqRqdbBEzUM

omega4 02-14-2013 12:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SLD76 (Post 7214332)
Its easy..in theory.

That's why Pete is one of the best in tennis.

Sid_Vicious 02-14-2013 12:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SLD76 (Post 7214332)
Its easy..in theory.

Well, you can really improve the readability of your serve with practice. That should be enough to gain the edge over your friends. :)

mattennis 02-14-2013 12:54 PM

He had a great serve, sure, but it was not the best serve (not even in his own era).

Ivanisevic, Becker, Stich, Krajicek, Arthurs and some others from his time had better serves (in terms of nº of aces+unreturned divided by nº of points)

Laurie 02-14-2013 01:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mattennis (Post 7214361)
He had a great serve, sure, but it was not the best serve (not even in his own era).

Ivanisevic, Becker, Stich, Krajicek, Arthurs and some others from his time had better serves (in terms of nº of aces+unreturned divided by nº of points)

Sigh....

It's about instructing youngsters how to hit with disguise and become good in a crucial part of the game.....

Laurie 02-14-2013 01:06 PM

Sid

Enjoy some 2nd serve gems I uploaded yesterday.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EI314quxukY

smoledman 02-14-2013 01:13 PM

I'd say Federer has inherited that super disguise ability from humble "but mine was the best" Petros.

smoledman 02-14-2013 01:13 PM

#humble #humble Petros

Stay humble Pete.

DropShotArtist 02-14-2013 01:21 PM

Wow, and people always accuse of Roger being arrogant. This guy takes the cake, he's an egomaniac.

Laurie 02-14-2013 01:21 PM

Oh dear, the schoolboys are out again. Maybe I should know better by now on this forum. Perhaps one of the best players of the game shouldn't pass on their tips, according to some people who possess a "schoolboy mentality" on a tennis forum.

Oh well....

Tennis_Hands 02-14-2013 01:22 PM

Why are some people being snarky?

It is a great tip.

Laurie 02-14-2013 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Tennis_Hands (Post 7214424)
Why are some people being snarky?

It is a great tip.

Perhaps:

1. They have never went on to a tennis court to practice serves or the game in general?

2. It makes them feel better about themselves to diss an achiever?

3. There is some frustration that to become good at something takes a lot of practice and they simply don't have the inclination to practise anything?

It is good instruction, I learned a lot from the Sampras serve, which I used in my playing, it takes a hell of a lot of practice to get a really good slice serve down the T on the ad court. But if anyone becomes really good at that it really raises your overall level.

Shaolin 02-14-2013 01:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mattennis (Post 7214361)
He had a great serve, sure, but it was not the best serve (not even in his own era).

Ivanisevic, Becker, Stich, Krajicek, Arthurs and some others from his time had better serves (in terms of nº of aces+unreturned divided by nº of points)


True if you only take into account the first serve, but factoring in the second serve Pete has the best overall. He was more dangerous with his second serve than a lot of pros are with their first.

mattennis 02-14-2013 01:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Laurie (Post 7214386)
Sigh....

It's about instructing youngsters how to hit with disguise and become good in a crucial part of the game.....

I know, I simply stated that his serve (that was absolutely great) was not "the best serve" (in my opinion) as he said.

He was one of the greatest all-court players of all time, but his serve was not "the best ever" as many people want to think.

tipsytennis 02-14-2013 01:31 PM

I play tennis alot but haven't got to the point yet where i can actually decide right away whether im going to go down the middle of wide. Sometimes i can try and hit down the middle but usually it ends up well in the box lol. I think you're really special when you can decide where you're going to hit in the blink of an eye.

DropShotArtist 02-14-2013 01:34 PM

I guess if YOU believe you are GOAT, that's all that counts.

SystemicAnomaly 02-14-2013 01:34 PM

Was it Sampras or Tim Henman that Agassi could read intended serve direction by the position/direction of the tip of his tongue? This would certainly be ironic if it was Pistol Pete that had this "tell".

Quote:

Originally Posted by mattennis (Post 7214361)
He had a great serve, sure, but it was not the best serve (not even in his own era).

Ivanisevic, Becker, Stich, Krajicek, Arthurs and some others from his time had better serves (in terms of nº of aces+unreturned divided by nº of points)

Sampras was said to have one of the heaviest serves of all time. His serve had a great deal of linear momentum/kinetic energy but also has a great deal of rotational momentum/kinetic energy due to massive amount of spin. He often exceeded 3000 rpm on his first serve (which is what many servers had on their much slower 2nd serve). His 2nd serve would sometimes exceed 5000 rpm.

His disguise and placement were also quite excellent. But then this thread is really only about disguise.


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