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jd22 02-15-2013 12:10 PM

IG Prestige Pro VS Graphene Speed Pro
 
Currently use an IG Prestige Pro. Play it stock, other than having replaced the leather grip with something lighter and tackier Weighs in at 340g with a dampener. Absolutely love it, Rolls Royce of a stick. However, every man and his dog has told me to get a more forgiving racquet, a lighter racquet, a racquet with a bigger head. Failing that, a Babolat APD.

To be fair, I did hit for about 6 hours over 3 session with an APD strung at 58ibs with Luxilon Big Bangers. I played like an absolute monster, could do pretty much anything I wanted. However, it all felt a bit wrong somehow, not that much like I thought tennis should have felt like. In fact, my arm felt a bit like a robots arm whilst hitting with it. And I know that particular set-up would destroy my arm over time.

Back to the Prestige for time being then.

More recently, I did 3, 3 hr sessions with the new Graphene Speed MP. Nice stick: very manoeuvrable, could swing it crazy-fast and hit some vicious topspin with it. But it lacked plowthrough and stability after the Prestige, and I felt like I was getting bullied by people who hit hard. Where the Prestige feels like you're onto the battlefield with a rocket launcher, the MP feels more like you're rocking up with a Kalashnikov instead. According the TW University, these racquets have more or less the same size sweetspot, but the Prestige is definitely more demanding to play with. I wanted to want the MP, to buy it and it be the holy grail for me. But, alas, back to the Prestige for the time being.

The more I read about the Graphene Speed Pro, though, the more I'm thinking this could be the perfect racquet for me, at least on paper anyway. Touch lighter, bigger head, seemingly huge sweetspot, I also prefer closed rather than open strings generally speaking. The swingweight is a concern in that it's a bit higher than the Prestige, which is not exactly a light racquet, but I guess I won't know until I try it. I think I read someone on this forum say the G-Pro is very similar to the Prestige, just a bit easier to use. That really excited me. Unfortunately It's more or less impossible to demo now e in my neck of the woods, but I should be getting my hands on one in abut two weeks.

Anyone got any thoughts on the differences or similarities between these sticks? I know the G-Pro got a great review at TW, but would be good to get some first hand thoughts as well.

jd22 02-15-2013 12:12 PM

Meant to say, I'm a baseliner. Would rather chew off my own arm than come to the net.

etd 02-16-2013 09:43 PM

The polarization is very noticeable on the Graphene Speed Pro. I couldn't get used to it. You have to have a fast swing to maximize the benefits of the polarization. I didn't care for the feel either, but that might have been due to the Head FXP Tour string on my demo which I find pretty numb.

I think the IG Prestige Pro is the better all around racquet, but I play singles and doubles and like to come to the net.

I wish they had just made a heavier version of the Graphene Speed MP and called it the Pro. The Graphene Speed MP is very easy to play with. I found the Graphene Speed Pro more finicky.

Anton 02-17-2013 05:09 AM

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Originally Posted by jd22 (Post 7216462)
Currently use an IG Prestige Pro. Play it stock, other than having replaced the leather grip with something lighter and tackier Weighs in at 340g with a dampener. Absolutely love it, Rolls Royce of a stick. However, every man and his dog has told me to get a more forgiving racquet, a lighter racquet, a racquet with a bigger head. Failing that, a Babolat APD.

If you want a cross between a prestige and APD, Speed Pro is a good way to go.

It is a polarized stick which makes it whippy per weight and is great for a player with developed stroke looking to both drive and hit with a lot of spin.

For flat drivers it may be a bit too much power, not enough stability and less than plush feel. For full western spinsters it may be too low of a launch angle, but if you want a racket that does both Speed Pro is great.

I have +10 grams on top of the loop and 10g of silicone in the handle, for even more polarization and plow.

Here is me hitting with it:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XtmR_...gRyRpvORvRYogg

parasailing 02-17-2013 09:25 AM

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Originally Posted by etd (Post 7219322)
The polarization is very noticeable on the Graphene Speed Pro. I couldn't get used to it. You have to have a fast swing to maximize the benefits of the polarization. I didn't care for the feel either, but that might have been due to the Head FXP Tour string on my demo which I find pretty numb.

I think the IG Prestige Pro is the better all around racquet, but I play singles and doubles and like to come to the net.

I wish they had just made a heavier version of the Graphene Speed MP and called it the Pro. The Graphene Speed MP is very easy to play with. I found the Graphene Speed Pro more finicky.


Yeah I totally agree with your thoughts about the polarization of the Pro. It's the first 18x20 string pattern I hit with that has good power and balls don't land short but I couldn't get use to the balance of the racquet. I also don't like polarized racquet which to me feels sluggish.

The Graphene Speed MP swings great but lacks oomph and I also think if they had made a heavier version, that would be the racquet of choice for me. I don't like adding lead tape since it takes a while to get the right amount and it might also throw off that nice balance the Graphene Speed currently has.

Mulach 02-17-2013 08:00 PM

I've owned both. I think the spec differences between the two says most of it. I find the 18x20 pattern and higher stiffness speed pro is more precise and has more pop. It is more powerful as the higher SW would suggest. Sweet spot is larger. The speed pro feels lighter yet swings faster.

The prestige pro offers a bit more stability but the speed pro stability is adequate so I find this a moot point.

All in all I find the speed pro to be more forgiving, precise, easier to control and provide more pop than the prestige pro. Just as the specs and power maps indicate.

I'm using full 4g at 52 lb on the speed pro. Highly recomend an extended demo.

jd22 02-18-2013 12:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Mulach (Post 7221644)
All in all I find the speed pro to be more forgiving, precise, easier to control and provide more pop than the prestige pro. Just as the specs and power maps indicate.
demo.

Hard not to love the above! On paper at least, it seems to be the ideal racquet for me. I love the TWU data on the sweetspot size - seems to be much bigger than the IGPP - in fact way up there with Extreme Pro 2.0, and certainly bigger than the G-MP. I also really like the idea that the G-Pro is whippier. My IGPP is a touch more slugglish than I'd like.

I don't fully understand what the feeling of playing with a polarized racquet is like – if anyone wants to give me an idea that would be cool.

Generally agree with above comments about the G-MP. It was really easy to play with, but after my headlight IGPP I felt that the weight distribution seemed too focussed in the handle and the tip, and consequently the throat was a touch too lightweight. I know this is the basic idea with the new Graphene construction, but I'm hoping the more headlight G-Pro will feel more headlight like my IGPP. Certainly the specs at 6pts hl suggest that will be the case.

stronzzi70 02-22-2013 07:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anton (Post 7219571)
If you want a cross between a prestige and APD, Speed Pro is a good way to go.

It is a polarized stick which makes it whippy per weight and is great for a player with developed stroke looking to both drive and hit with a lot of spin.

For flat drivers it may be a bit too much power, not enough stability and less than plush feel. For full western spinsters it may be too low of a launch angle, but if you want a racket that does both Speed Pro is great.

I have +10 grams on top of the loop and 10g of silicone in the handle, for even more polarization and plow.

Here is me hitting with it:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XtmR_...gRyRpvORvRYogg



Do you know what kind pallets has.........?

Anton 02-22-2013 08:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stronzzi70 (Post 7231527)
Do you know what kind pallets has.........?

TK 82s - more square, like Wilson

stronzzi70 02-22-2013 09:25 PM

just perfect,,,Really like TK 82 S ...Thanks for you reply Anton..

stronzzi70 02-28-2013 12:56 PM

I have this problem with my graphene speed pro.......check this,,,,
Why?.........

http://s1103.beta.photobucket.com/us...32942046683173

sunof tennis 02-28-2013 02:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anton (Post 7219571)
If you want a cross between a prestige and APD, Speed Pro is a good way to go.

It is a polarized stick which makes it whippy per weight and is great for a player with developed stroke looking to both drive and hit with a lot of spin.

For flat drivers it may be a bit too much power, not enough stability and less than plush feel. For full western spinsters it may be too low of a launch angle, but if you want a racket that does both Speed Pro is great.

I have +10 grams on top of the loop and 10g of silicone in the handle, for even more polarization and plow.

Here is me hitting with it:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XtmR_...gRyRpvORvRYogg

Nice hitting by the way. Where is it that you were playing?

Anton 02-28-2013 02:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stronzzi70 (Post 7242376)
I have this problem with my graphene speed pro.......check this,,,,
Why?.........

http://s1103.beta.photobucket.com/us...32942046683173

Gotta press down on grommet while tensioning the string, so it doesn't pop up like that.

Easy fix though - just cut it off

Anton 02-28-2013 02:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sunof tennis (Post 7242585)
Nice hitting by the way. Where is it that you were playing?

Thx, this is in Mexico, Now Sapphire resort, really liked it, not the best for tennis nuts though

mrmo1115 02-28-2013 04:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anton (Post 7242614)
Gotta press down on grommet while tensioning the string, so it doesn't pop up like that.

Easy fix though - just cut it off

My stringer does that and I have no problems now.

CityTennis22 02-28-2013 07:50 PM

I've actually been playing with the Youtek Prestige Pro for 3 years now and have loved it, but my Head rep brought me a bag of the new Graphene demo's and I immediately fell in love with the way the Speed Pro plays. It feels amazing on my groundstrokes, crisp at the net, and solid on the serve. I already told my rep that I want 3 of them. I'm usually real weird about demoing rackets, but this one felt great from the beginning.

stronzzi70 03-02-2013 01:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anton (Post 7242617)
Thx, this is in Mexico, Now Sapphire resort, really liked it, not the best for tennis nuts though

Anton,
Im so happy with my graphene speed pro......really nice stick....playing until now without any modification, what do you think about leather grip...could be change some polarization?

Federerkblade 03-02-2013 03:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stronzzi70 (Post 7246790)
Anton,
Im so happy with my graphene speed pro......really nice stick....playing until now without any modification, what do you think about leather grip...could be change some polarization?

interested to hear thought of leather grip

hopefully demoing it soon

Anton 03-02-2013 07:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stronzzi70 (Post 7246790)
Anton,
Im so happy with my graphene speed pro......really nice stick....playing until now without any modification, what do you think about leather grip...could be change some polarization?

Sorry haven't tried - I already have extra 10g on the handle and I really like the way my PRO plays with current setup, so I don't want to change anything.

jd22 03-03-2013 12:48 PM

Finally got a look at the G-Pro today but only in a grip 2 or 5, and no demos available yet. Don't have a clue what's going on with Head's supply of this racquet in the UK. Seems like a mess.

Anyway, it felt awesome to swing – surprisingly light, whippy and manoeuvrable. The prestige Pro felt felt hefty in comparison. We weighed it at 333g but it felt 15g or so less in the hand. Also noticed the head is rounder than the G-MP, which was a surprise. And the differential in spacing in the strings between the 16x19 MP and the 18x20 Pro was huge. Very different racquets, seemingly.

Salesman said the grips 3's and 4s were coming in later this week, but anyway their are long waiting lists for the demos so am not expecting to hit with one anytime soon.

Thanks to everyone who's posted in this thread though. Still hoping the Speed Pro is going to be the one. In this lifetime, ideally.


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