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jaym222 02-18-2013 02:29 PM

Racquet that plays like the Dunlop Biomimetic 300
 
Hey Everyone

After demo-ing many racquets, determined to get something more versatile and softer than my AeroPro Drive GT, I found the Dunlop Biomimetic 300. I really like this racquet. The pros definitely outweigh the cons...except for one....the sweet spot of this racquet feels like it is the size of a postage stamp and any hits just outside of it are pretty muted. I am not good enough to hit consistently in this smaller sweet spot so I find I am getting some real varying result in depth of my shots.

So my question, does anyone know of a racquet that has a 100 sq inch head size, with a more ample sweet spot that plays very very close to the 300?


Thanks
Jay

LeeD 02-18-2013 04:27 PM

Most players would say a couple of windings of 1/4" lead tape at 10-2 takes away the bite of mishits. Some use more lead tape.
Some players say a bigger grip takes away some of the twisting of mishits.
I'm a proponent of really lightweight rackets, like the Aero500 with a SW of 308.
My Bio300T needs the first suggestion to match with the 500 stock.

acura9927 02-18-2013 06:17 PM

Dunlop 400 tour has a Hugh sweet spot minus a bit smaller control.

robbo1970 02-19-2013 02:20 AM

I'm not sure whether dropping a bit of string tension might make the sweet spot feel bigger. I must admit I don't find it too small on mine.

I also added a leather grip to mine to give it more static weight and make it a touch more headlight. I guess it effectively turns it into the Tour version but with a 16x19 pattern and 1 extra square inch.

Ive tried a few rackets and settled on the Bio 300. Its a really nice racket to play with. Plenty of control with more than adequate power once the leather grip is on.


Lee, how are you finding your Bio300 Tour?

jaym222 02-19-2013 05:54 AM

Thanks for the feedback everyone. I really love the racquet overall, I think for me coming from a 100 sq Babolat to the 98 sq makes that feeling of a smaller sweet spot zone greater. But several reviews have commented on the Dunlop 300 having a smaller sweetspot in comparison to other racquets.

If someone said, try racquet X, it plays very close to the 300 and has a 100 sq inch head size I would be ordering the demo in within seconds! :)

If that racquet isn't out there, I will experiment with some lead at 9-3, 10-2

westpac690 02-19-2013 03:30 PM

If you like the 300, give the 400 a demo. It's not exactly like a 300 or 300 Tour, but it's close enough to warrant a demo. I switched to the 400 from a 300 tour. I found the 400 to have just as good of control as the 300Tour (for me) and it was more stable, with a bigger sweetspot. Extremely comfortable racquet too.

jaym222 02-20-2013 11:02 AM

Thanks West....sounds like it is worth a try!

MikeHitsHard93 02-20-2013 11:10 AM

I would try dropping the tension down to about 45lbs and add some weight to the grip and also at 10/2 and perhaps 9/3.

LeeD 02-20-2013 04:44 PM

Yes, after my second day with the Bio300T, those are excellent suggestions that I should apply ASAP.

keithfival 02-20-2013 04:45 PM

If you can handle more weight the Exo Tour 100 18x20 is a soft control stick with a huge sweetspot. Felt sluggish to me but otherwise it would be my stick.

Similar but much lighter is the Blade Team 104 line, 18x19, soft, big sweetspot, pretty good control, a bit more pop than the Dunlop or Prince.

Payam 02-21-2013 12:02 PM

The one which I have found very similar, but slightly more powerful is Biomimetic 300 Plus. They don't stuck it here, but you can order from the TW Europe.

LeeD 02-21-2013 12:17 PM

I think some weight around 10-2 would give enough mass to a 300 to make it solid and playable.
Advantage of that narrow head shape is a quicker swing on serves and forehands, and a flex of 63 or so shouldn't hurt anyone's arm or shoulder.

tom4ny 02-21-2013 12:55 PM

I am a Dunlop 300 guy and have currently switched to the F3.0 tour from the Bio 300 tour but I also have a few Bio 300's. I agree with the prior posters that some lead at 10:2 is perfect for the regular Bio 300. On the 300 Tour I spread the lead tape from 11-1 and it was what that frame needed. Also, with the very oval frame you may want to drop the cross tension by 3-4 lbs. That seems to open up the sweetspot even a bit more and you have a great control frame with some pop! I could use a full bed of Kirshbaum PL2 and I would string at 55/52 or 54/51. When I use Isospeed Control or Professional Classic I bump it up to 56/53.

albatros_forehand 02-21-2013 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by tom4ny (Post 7228822)
I am a Dunlop 300 guy and have currently switched to the F3.0 tour from the Bio 300 tour but I also have a few Bio 300's. I agree with the prior posters that some lead at 10:2 is perfect for the regular Bio 300. On the 300 Tour I spread the lead tape from 11-1 and it was what that frame needed. Also, with the very oval frame you may want to drop the cross tension by 3-4 lbs. That seems to open up the sweetspot even a bit more and you have a great control frame with some pop! I could use a full bed of Kirshbaum PL2 and I would string at 55/52 or 54/51. When I use Isospeed Control or Professional Classic I bump it up to 56/53.

Did you mean the f 3.0 tour where you spread the lead tape from 11-1? Or you meant the old 4d300 tour?

albatros_forehand 02-21-2013 04:05 PM

Why don't you play test F3.0 tour with some lead tape - more modern feel and larger SP than bio300.

LeeD 02-21-2013 04:07 PM

Can you lead up a Bio3 so it's SW is close to 320, which is about 16 points more than a stock Bio3?
More SW will enlargen the sweetspot, and so does lowering string tension to sub 50's, and increase the grip size.

tmc5005 02-21-2013 04:39 PM

The Head Liquidmetal Radical Midplus has very similiar specs, try it out and see if you have the same problem.

LeeD 02-21-2013 04:45 PM

LMRads have much higher SW, and a stiffer feeling head, while the shaft is very similar in flex. I have two of them.

tom4ny 02-22-2013 02:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by albatros_forehand (Post 7229199)
Did you mean the f 3.0 tour where you spread the lead tape from 11-1? Or you meant the old 4d300 tour?

no, on the old Bio 300 tour is where I used lead. I have been tinkering with the F3.0 tour and trying lead in various areas but have not found the ideal yet. I actually think it plays well stock for 98% of what I need so I may just keep using it without the lead. The F3.0 is pretty powerful and I like it best by stringing it no higher than 56 lbs. Mine are all at 55 lbs. right now with a low powered multi and it is great.

Anton 02-22-2013 03:35 AM

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Originally Posted by jaym222 (Post 7223187)
Hey Everyone

After demo-ing many racquets, determined to get something more versatile and softer than my AeroPro Drive GT, I found the Dunlop Biomimetic 300. I really like this racquet. The pros definitely outweigh the cons...except for one....the sweet spot of this racquet feels like it is the size of a postage stamp and any hits just outside of it are pretty muted. I am not good enough to hit consistently in this smaller sweet spot so I find I am getting some real varying result in depth of my shots.

So my question, does anyone know of a racquet that has a 100 sq inch head size, with a more ample sweet spot that plays very very close to the 300?


Thanks
Jay


Very very close to 300? That's a tough one. I think your best bet with 300 is adding some lead tape at 12, 3&9 and near the buttcap.

That's the setup I have and it plays consistent, soft and has a big sweetspot. But it is considerably heavier and requires good technique.


If you want a tweener sorta similar to 300 with softer response and bigger sweetspot - Head MG Radical.


Graphine Speed Pro is in between APDgt and 300 - its 100", 67 stiffness, but with some extra heft for stability and bigger sweetspot then 300.


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