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austinjbrunner 02-24-2013 04:29 PM

Stringing Machine Suggestions
 
I recently sold my drop weight Alpha String Pal, and am looking to upgrade.

Now, I have used a Prince Neos 1000 and love it. It's a pretty great machine. However the pricetag is steep.

However I have been looking at the Wise 2086 on TW and wondering if it would be easier and more efficient to get a drop weight and attach this to it?

Thoughts and/or experiences?

Lakers4Life 02-24-2013 04:43 PM

I don't think anyone has tried putting a DW on Neos 1000. Though it's entirely possible. You would need to get a donor DW assembly; Tower, clutch, arm and weight. Then have a block of of steel or aluminum machined to mount on the tension rail, and drill/thread holes to lock the block in place with corresponding holes to match the base of the tower.

Costs could run you $300 to $400.

You are better off getting a Wise or set your tension 10% more in the mean time.

IMHO you can get a better consistency with a crank than with a DW.

tennis4 02-24-2013 04:59 PM

I think the OP asked if it is feasible to put WISE 2086 on a DW.


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Originally Posted by Lakers4Life (Post 7234343)
I don't think anyone has tried putting a DW on Neos 1000. Though it's entirely possible. You would need to get a donor DW assembly; Tower, clutch, arm and weight. Then have a block of of steel or aluminum machined to mount on the tension rail, and drill/thread holes to lock the block in place with corresponding holes to match the base of the tower.

Costs could run you $300 to $400.

You are better off getting a Wise or set your tension 10% more in the mean time.

IMHO you can get a better consistency with a crank than with a DW.


austinjbrunner 02-24-2013 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by tennis4 (Post 7234374)
I think the OP asked if it is feasible to put WISE 2086 on a DW.

Yes, thank you. Sorry it wasn't clear.

I've used a drop weight. It's time consuming and not precise enough for me. I sold my Alpha String Pal because of it.

Now... I've used a Neos 1000 and it's great comparative to my DW. My thought process:

Spend 1000 plus on a Neos 1000 or something similar, and get good results but spend a chunk of change.

Or: Get another DW, and get the Wise 2086 and put it on a DW and save a couple hundred bucks and still get good results. Plus portability which for me isn't entirely necessary but could be in the future.

If I were to put a Wise 2086 on a DW...would it still be effective?

Lakers4Life 02-24-2013 05:45 PM

If you already have a Used Neos 1000 why not just add a Wise, if space is not problem. If you spent $1K+ on an USED NEOS, that's almost the price of a brand new one. I know of a couple of places that are selling used Neos 1000 for $895.

You can probably get a USED Gamma 4000, if you like glide bars; and put a Wise on it with not too much problems. It's been done and there are many threads on putting a Wise on a DW machine.


If you mean "effective" to work, the answer is "YES".

austinjbrunner 02-24-2013 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Lakers4Life (Post 7234439)
If you already have a Used Neos 1000 why not just add a Wise, if space is not problem. If you spent $1K+ on an USED NEOS, that's almost the price of a brand new one. I know of a couple of places that are selling used Neos 1000 for $895.

You can probably get a USED Gamma 4000, if you like glide bars; and put a Wise on it with not too much problems. It's been done and there are many threads on putting a Wise on a DW machine.


If you mean "effective" to work, the answer is "YES".

Sorry if I am still not being clear.

Current situation: No stringer what so ever.

I know the Neos is good because I HAVE USED ONE.
You however have answered my question about attaching a Wise on a DW.

I was simply asking if a Wise on a DW would be comparable to efficiency of a Neos 1000 because it would be more cost effective to purchase both a DW and Wise compared to the Neos 1000.

tennis4 02-24-2013 06:08 PM

I have a X-2 and just got a neos 1000 last week.

The stringjob done on X-2 is not quite the same as those on neos 1000, while I consider both were done consistently. The difference is in the feel ... maybe I am too sensitive, or subject. ? :-)

In your case, what kind of DW you have in mind? A fixed clamp configuration starts @ 450, plus $500 to Wise 2086. That brings the total to near $1000.

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Originally Posted by austinjbrunner (Post 7234462)
Sorry if I am still not being clear.

Current situation: No stringer what so ever.

I know the Neos is good because I HAVE USED ONE.
You however have answered my question about attaching a Wise on a DW.

I was simply asking if a Wise on a DW would be comparable to efficiency of a Neos 1000 because it would be more cost effective to purchase both a DW and Wise compared to the Neos 1000.


Lakers4Life 02-24-2013 06:10 PM

Ahhh OK. The answer is still yes. Adding a Wise to a DW with Fixed clamps far for effecient than a Neos 1000 without a Wise.

beernutz 02-25-2013 12:43 AM

You could do what I did and look around for a used Neos in good condition.

anubis 02-25-2013 06:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lakers4Life (Post 7234439)
If you already have a Used Neos 1000 why not just add a Wise, if space is not problem. If you spent $1K+ on an USED NEOS, that's almost the price of a brand new one. I know of a couple of places that are selling used Neos 1000 for $895.

You can probably get a USED Gamma 4000, if you like glide bars; and put a Wise on it with not too much problems. It's been done and there are many threads on putting a Wise on a DW machine.


If you mean "effective" to work, the answer is "YES".

I have a used Gamma 4000 and I love it. With some TLC, it produces very accurate string jobs. I paid about $350 for it.

austinjbrunner 02-26-2013 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by beernutz (Post 7234870)
You could do what I did and look around for a used Neos in good condition.

I have a guy on my travel team who got a Neos 1000 for 300 bucks. I would love to go that route and just get a used one... any suggestions on where to get a decent used stringer?

diredesire 02-26-2013 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by austinjbrunner (Post 7238171)
I have a guy on my travel team who got a Neos 1000 for 300 bucks. I would love to go that route and just get a used one... any suggestions on where to get a decent used stringer?

Craigslist OCCASIONALLY has good condition used machines, but it really depends on your area. In the PNW (it's cold and rainy) we don't see many used machines on the market. I'd look for something like a Gamma 602 FC if you want to slap a wise on. Any lower and I'm not sure the bang for the buck is so great, IMHO.

Lakers4Life 02-26-2013 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by diredesire (Post 7238310)
Craigslist OCCASIONALLY has good condition used machines, but it really depends on your area. In the PNW (it's cold and rainy) we don't see many used machines on the market. I'd look for something like a Gamma 602 FC if you want to slap a wise on. Any lower and I'm not sure the bang for the buck is so great, IMHO.

Andyroo???? is up in your neck of the woods and he picked up a Gamma 4000 for some close to dirty cheap.

On a Side note, I'm getting a Lobster Elite ball machine for FREE. :D I just have to drive 50 miles to pick it up.

austinjbrunner 02-28-2013 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Lakers4Life (Post 7238629)
Andyroo???? is up in your neck of the woods and he picked up a Gamma 4000 for some close to dirty cheap.

On a Side note, I'm getting a Lobster Elite ball machine for FREE. :D I just have to drive 50 miles to pick it up.

I will have to ask him... I found one on **** the guy was willing to go down to 750. Still too salty for me.

diredesire 02-28-2013 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by austinjbrunner (Post 7242375)
I will have to ask him... I found one on **** the guy was willing to go down to 750. Still too salty for me.

I'm getting rid of a 6002 for cheaper than that, but I haven't gotten around to listing it. I have been tossing around the idea of slapping a WISE on it, but the clamps are wing-nut style, so I feel like it's probably not worth it...

Lakers4Life 03-01-2013 02:21 AM

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Originally Posted by diredesire (Post 7243127)
I'm getting rid of a 6002 for cheaper than that, but I haven't gotten around to listing it. I have been tossing around the idea of slapping a WISE on it, but the clamps are wing-nut style, so I feel like it's probably not worth it...

Can you post pictures of the 6002? I think I know what you are talking about, but it's called a 6004, and does not look anything like the modern 6004. Even the manual says it's a 6004 circa 1999.

diredesire 03-01-2013 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Lakers4Life (Post 7243436)
Can you post pictures of the 6002? I think I know what you are talking about, but it's called a 6004, and does not look anything like the modern 6004. Even the manual says it's a 6004 circa 1999.

http://206.210.94.83/collaterals/pdf/6002.pdf
http://diredesire.com/tennis/sell/

Edit, it's an older machine, I think it's a predecessor of the 6004 for sure. The mounting system is pretty slick for the age. I prefer it over the ESII+ style individual arm machines, for sure.

beernutz 03-01-2013 11:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by austinjbrunner (Post 7238171)
I have a guy on my travel team who got a Neos 1000 for 300 bucks. I would love to go that route and just get a used one... any suggestions on where to get a decent used stringer?

I found mine on craigslist, but I searched in several different cities (basically every city in which I had a family member living) over a period of about 6 months before I found what I wanted. You can use a craiglist search tool like searchtempest.com to make searching easier.

kadishack 03-01-2013 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by austinjbrunner (Post 7242375)
I will have to ask him... I found one on **** the guy was willing to go down to 750. Still too salty for me.

I just found 2 machines on craiglist near philly and the owner is asking 500 for both of them (Prince Neos 1000 and a some Gamma crank stand alone). Just a heads up to anyone near that area as it would be a 500 mile round trip for me...

redduck996 03-01-2013 02:34 PM

prince neos in philly for 500? wasn't able to find the ad.


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