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Nickac 02-28-2013 10:02 AM

Mixed doubles tournament Rules
 
Ok so I'm playing in my first mixed couples comp and I have some questions about etiquette.

I have a pretty strong and fast first serve. What rules do I follow. Do I haut take pace off of it or do I hit her my second serve which is a kick.

I have plate mixed doubles in the past and kinda just followed what the other guy serves. I have had guys that don't care and hit to my partner at probably 120mph. In fact I have never really seen guy hold back to much. So I haut copy there speed.

Also what are some other unspoken rules. I want to play fair and don't want to be labeled an a-hole. I also want to win though.

NTexas 02-28-2013 10:04 AM

play to win cause your opponet's will.

Nickac 02-28-2013 10:06 AM

So your telling me if I serve 115mph and that gets me a lot of free points. Then serve 115mph to the girl.

goober 02-28-2013 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Nickac (Post 7242027)
So your telling me if I serve 115mph and that gets me a lot of free points. Then serve 115mph to the girl.

Tournament tennis= played to win unless this is some kind of "friendly club tournament" and you are going to see these people again. Serving hard at somebody is not bad form. Headhunting or hitting someone who has basically conceded the point would be. If you are obviously going to win you can dial it back, if the outcome is in doubt go all out.

rich s 02-28-2013 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by NTexas (Post 7242025)
play to win cause your opponet's will.

agreed......

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Originally Posted by Nickac (Post 7242027)
So your telling me if I serve 115mph and that gets me a lot of free points. Then serve 115mph to the girl.

yes....

Costagirl 02-28-2013 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Nickac (Post 7242021)
Ok so I'm playing in my first mixed couples comp and I have some questions about etiquette.

I have a pretty strong and fast first serve. What rules do I follow. Do I haut take pace off of it or do I hit her my second serve which is a kick.

I have plate mixed doubles in the past and kinda just followed what the other guy serves. I have had guys that don't care and hit to my partner at probably 120mph. In fact I have never really seen guy hold back to much. So I haut copy there speed.

Also what are some other unspoken rules. I want to play fair and don't want to be labeled an a-hole. I also want to win though.

gooberac said it well.

If this is country club or club tennis and you will see these people again, do play nice by not railing a ball eye level while she's at net. Many times kick serves are just as gnarly to return cause they are nasty bounces. I'd probably give her a first with a bit of pace taken off. Play to win but play nice as nothing gained by humiliating someone at a much lesser place in their game. Win but win graciously....it's so much cooler to do it that way.

Mauvaise 02-28-2013 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by goober (Post 7242067)
Tournament tennis= played to win unless this is some kind of "friendly club tournament" and you are going to see these people again. Serving hard at somebody is not bad form. Headhunting or hitting someone who has basically conceded the point would be. If you are obviously going to win you can dial it back, if the outcome is in doubt go all out.

This.

Serve whatever will get the most free points or weak returns. Depending on what level the woman is, you might find that she'll have a hard time returning the kicker than your fast-paced first serve, so whichever one works best, use that one.

Nickac 02-28-2013 11:33 AM

I really appreciate all this advice. This is a club tournament. I find that even playing these people non tournament they are competitive but also nice and fun people. I have never played a tournament here so maybe they play the same or maybe they are more serious when it comes to a tournament. I guess I will find out.

sureshs 02-28-2013 11:40 AM

No one serves at 120 mph in a club tournament.

It is the kind of myth only found on TW.

Nickac 02-28-2013 11:51 AM

I'm sure exactly how fast but it's a lot faster then mine and I serve probably close to 100 maybe like 90 or 95. But I guess it's near impossible to guess a speed unless you have a radar. These guys are fresh out of college where they played

sureshs 02-28-2013 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Nickac (Post 7242242)
I'm sure exactly how fast but it's a lot faster then mine and I serve probably close to 100 maybe like 90 or 95. But I guess it's near impossible to guess a speed unless you have a radar. These guys are fresh out of college where they played

Ah that makes sense then. I still can't think of them as "club" players

Nickac 02-28-2013 12:03 PM

Probably just buying time waiting to find a job and probably looking for girls

NTexas 02-28-2013 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by sureshs (Post 7242210)
No one serves at 120 mph in a club tournament.

It is the kind of myth only found on TW.

So I actually don't have a 120mph serve:confused:
just one more thing in life to be disappointed about.

sureshs 02-28-2013 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by NTexas (Post 7242284)
So I actually don't have a 120mph serve:confused:
just one more thing in life to be disappointed about.

No. If you had one, you wouldn't be posting here :-) You would be in Delray Beach or Dubai.

LeeD 02-28-2013 12:50 PM

Actually....
If you have a 120 mph serve, the girl on the other side of the net would have less problems returning it than your second serve.
Imagine a twist and slice from a guy who really CAN serve flats at 120. The twists would hop easily 6' high off the ground, while the slice would curve so far off the court that the returner would need to take 3 steps to get to it.
Most females 4.5 and over practice against guy's flat first serves, so at least can lob it back, or volley/slice it back CC to your court.

OrangePower 02-28-2013 01:51 PM

Actually....
If you have a 120 mph serve, you're at a level where you won't have a problem winning rec mixed dubs, no matter what you do.

sam_p 02-28-2013 01:59 PM

In my experience most strong women players (4.5 or 5.0) have more trouble handling a substantial kick serve than a hard flat one (as someone else mentioned upstream). If they are 4.5-5.0 women who play mixed, they've faced plenty of power serves and will a) not be upset at seeing more and b) probably handle it better than you imagine. As always though the most effective thing is to change up location, speed and spin.

If I find yourself playing against weaker women players in mixed (just socially, I gave up 8.0 a few years ago after moving to 4.5 myself) then I am loath to hit a big first serve a) because I don't want to harass them and b) they can't handle spin at all anyway usually and it's honestly more effective to hit a kicker first serve at a very high %.

Nickac 02-28-2013 02:28 PM

Awesome thanks for all your responses. I will experiment with both and see which one seems to be more effective

MeHere2PlayTennis 02-28-2013 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by sam_p (Post 7242498)
In my experience most strong women players (4.5 or 5.0) have more trouble handling a substantial kick serve than a hard flat one (as someone else mentioned upstream). If they are 4.5-5.0 women who play mixed, they've faced plenty of power serves and will a) not be upset at seeing more and b) probably handle it better than you imagine. As always though the most effective thing is to change up location, speed and spin.

If I find yourself playing against weaker women players in mixed (just socially, I gave up 8.0 a few years ago after moving to 4.5 myself) then I am loath to hit a big first serve a) because I don't want to harass them and b) they can't handle spin at all anyway usually and it's honestly more effective to hit a kicker first serve at a very high %.

I completely agree. A well placed spin serve is much better in mixed. At a social tournament, the rules are definitely different, so it is best to just hit well placed balls and not have to defend yourself for petty perceptions.

S&V Specialist 02-28-2013 07:18 PM

I can serve very big, 120+ avg. 1st serve (sometimes upwards of 130 if it's really cranked). I find kickers and slices can be much more successful in mixed, but you still have to keep your opponent honest with some flat serves throughout the match.


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