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Cup8489 03-01-2013 05:56 PM

Rafa & Nole, Miami 2007
 
Back when Novak was just a baby still, and Rafa was at the physical peak of his defense. Sure he raised his game the following year, but honestly neither one of these guys plays like this anymore. Novak is more consistent now, but this incarnation is what I liked when I first saw him, a shotmaker with sick defense.

Rafa of course with all his swagger of his younger days (well both of them). It would be cool to see the Rivalry get back to this to an extent, just the insane shotmaking and ridiculous defense instead of just ridiculous defense.

Hope you enjoy the links:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NCGNDMmxaX0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jRX7fhH7d3k

second link is a bit longer, didn't watch it though

DragonBlaze 03-01-2013 06:23 PM

Thanks for posting this. Awesome highlights! Especially the last few points with both guys jumping around after winning intense points :lol:

MichaelNadal 03-01-2013 06:26 PM

I really love the way they played back then too. It's hard to explain the changes, their defense (well Djokovic's) is still just as good, they just seemed to hit harder and play faster. Nadal was much more of a fighter then too.

kishnabe 03-01-2013 06:43 PM

This is when Djokovic is enjoyable to watch. Playing real tennis.....not the crap that he wins with these days.

kishnabe 03-01-2013 06:53 PM

such a Drama Queen this Djokovic. 7.41 min. on first link.

Clarky21 03-01-2013 06:55 PM

God I miss this version of Nadal. He is nothing like this anymore. He has declined so much it's shocking.

Towser83 03-01-2013 06:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Clarky21 (Post 7245454)
God I miss this version of Nadal. He is nothing like this anymore. He has declined so much it's shocking.

Yet all through 2011-12 he was far more competitive vs Djokovic on HC...

But I miss this version of Nole. He has becoming far too much of a grinder these days. Despite his increase in success.

MichaelNadal 03-01-2013 07:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Towser83 (Post 7245458)
Yet all through 2011-12 he was far more competitive vs Djokovic on HC...

But I miss this version of Nole. He has becoming far too much of a grinder these days. Despite his increase in success.

That's the exact answer to your first sentence here regarding Nadal. He gets too much credit for his "grinding/defense" in his early days but IMO he's less offensive now than ever.

Mike Sams 03-01-2013 07:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Clarky21 (Post 7245454)
God I miss this version of Nadal. He is nothing like this anymore. He has declined so much it's shocking.

It's playing like this that's broken his body. Besides, he was only 20 here.

dudeski 03-01-2013 07:24 PM

I love that match. You can almost see Nadal's knees starting to crumble with every long point. Vamos Nole!

veroniquem 03-01-2013 07:38 PM

Miami 2007 was the 1st master where Novak beat Rafa. He hasn't lost to Rafa in a master off of clay since. The only hard court master where Rafa beat Novak was IW 2007. But of course Rafa beat Novak in other events on hard: Olympics, WTF and USO.

Ace of Aces 03-01-2013 07:39 PM

Djokovic's forehand looked loopier then.

Cup8489 03-01-2013 07:40 PM

To me, I wish the rivalry had been closer to this. super shotmaking AND defense. This is the tennis I enjoy. I was getting pumped just watching the highlights.

DragonBlaze 03-01-2013 07:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Towser83 (Post 7245458)
Yet all through 2011-12 he was far more competitive vs Djokovic on HC...

But I miss this version of Nole. He has becoming far too much of a grinder these days. Despite his increase in success.

Quote:

Originally Posted by MichaelNadal (Post 7245472)
That's the exact answer to your first sentence here regarding Nadal. He gets too much credit for his "grinding/defense" in his early days but IMO he's less offensive now than ever.

I hate to continue the "back in those days" trend but Federer is not nearly as exciting to watch anymore either. He doesn't have that explosive power anymore so it just feels like he's playing the percentages (albeit pretty damn well considering his age). I used to love watching his forehand, can't say the same anymore.

It's a bit annoying I think for all fan camps that there at least appears to be less "shotmaking" these days between the top guys since there defensive capabilities outshine their offensive one. Sigh.

Carsomyr 03-01-2013 08:39 PM

This is akin to watching a sporting event of the 70s, I feel like one of them should be smoking. Thank God Nike doesn't dress Nadal like that anymore.

SassyRamirez 03-01-2013 08:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DragonBlaze (Post 7245532)
I hate to continue the "back in those days" trend but Federer is not nearly as exciting to watch anymore either. He doesn't have that explosive power anymore so it just feels like he's playing the percentages (albeit pretty damn well considering his age). I used to love watching his forehand, can't say the same anymore.

It's a bit annoying I think for all fan camps that there at least appears to be less "shotmaking" these days between the top guys since there defensive capabilities outshine their offensive one. Sigh.

That's because the courts are even slower than they were in 2007 these days, so naturally the top players adapt and their games are even more defensive/grinder-based. Sigh.

Tony48 03-01-2013 10:18 PM

Why is Novak playing a pirate?

But that was a great match. That was when I first took notice of Novak and became a fan.

Murrayfan31 03-01-2013 11:09 PM

Djokovic cut Nadal's career short. In 2009 in Madrid and 2012 at the Australain Open. Both extremely long matches that had long term effects. Vamos Djokovic. :)

mattennis 03-02-2013 04:38 AM

Great highlights!!!

Unfortunately, tennis is not like that anymore.

Today almost all players seem too cautious, too control-defense oriented.

It may be the best strategy under current surfaces/balls/strings conditions, but for the spectators (at least for me) tennis was much more fun at any time in the past.

rdis10093 03-02-2013 04:52 AM

and that is what killed nadals' knees


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