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tonygao 03-11-2013 11:06 PM

match vids: 3.5- vs 4.0+ and 3.5- vs 3.5-
 
it seems without a rating on the title, very little interest can a post attract. I just repost my latest practice match vids here in order to get more comments.

here is the vid where I played someone at the same level as myself(3.5-) . I am in the purple shirt.
http://youtu.be/4gPT-o_lqFE

below are sets against a 4.0+ player
1st set 0:6
I am the one close to the camera:
http://youtu.be/J1I5OkWCwQI

2nd set 3:6
I am the one on the far side:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j9s2OdwdL8E

it's so clear that when faced with higher level player, my strokes look a lot worse. so a basic conclusion about video, you need to really see the opponent's level before judging the level of one player.

iradical18 03-12-2013 03:41 AM

Great vids man, looking good out there.

HughJars 03-12-2013 04:50 AM

Great vids man. Gives me a good idea where Im at.

As a rec player that has played for a couple of years, Id feel confident Id be able to match you with my groundstrokes mostly, but Id kill for the conistency of your serve, particularly in the first vid....

Govnor 03-12-2013 04:52 AM

Certainly, a video only tells you so much, but you look like a good 3.5 to me. I don't think you have to improve a whole lot to make 4.0. What are you looking to improve on?

tennismonkey 03-12-2013 07:11 AM

lots of nice groundies being hit. i like this camera location the best to see what's going on on the court.

one thing that really stuck out to me is that none of the players take a ball on the rise. consequently any deep high topspin ball, the OP and the others on the videos run back almost to the back fence to take the ball in their strike zone. and then they scramble like mad back to about 5 feet behind the baseline.

fruitytennis1 03-12-2013 04:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tonygao (Post 7267363)
it seems without a rating on the title, very little interest can a post attract. I just repost my latest practice match vids here in order to get more comments.

here is the vid where I played someone at the same level as myself(3.5-) . I am in the purple shirt.
http://youtu.be/4gPT-o_lqFE

below are sets against a 4.0+ player
1st set 0:6
I am the one close to the camera:
http://youtu.be/J1I5OkWCwQI

2nd set 3:6
I am the one on the far side:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j9s2OdwdL8E

it's so clear that when faced with higher level player, my strokes look a lot worse. so a basic conclusion about video, you need to really see the opponent's level before judging the level of one player.

I assure you that you are above 3.5..

luvforty 03-12-2013 04:36 PM

tony are you in China? how does the rating system work?

and when are you gonna start to hit to people's backhand.

Red Sunset 03-12-2013 04:40 PM

I reckon you're at 4.0 already Tony. You can clearly hit all the shots required of a 4.0. You threw in some nice drop shots, technique looks solid in my humble opinion.

TomT 03-13-2013 09:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tonygao (Post 7267363)
it seems without a rating on the title, very little interest can a post attract. I just repost my latest practice match vids here in order to get more comments.

here is the vid where I played someone at the same level as myself(3.5-) . I am in the purple shirt.
http://youtu.be/4gPT-o_lqFE

below are sets against a 4.0+ player
1st set 0:6
I am the one close to the camera:
http://youtu.be/J1I5OkWCwQI

2nd set 3:6
I am the one on the far side:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j9s2OdwdL8E

it's so clear that when faced with higher level player, my strokes look a lot worse. so a basic conclusion about video, you need to really see the opponent's level before judging the level of one player.

Very much enjoyed watching these vids. Thanks. Some nice hitting and serving. You appear to have as good or better technique than all but a couple of the best 3.5s I've played against in my limited experience so far. If that's your current rating, then I agree with the posters who said you're on the cusp of moving to a higher level.

You can win points and games against the higher rated players. In the video where you lost 0-6 ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J1I5O...ature=youtu.be ), it looks to me like you're in pretty much all of the points, eg., nice 19 shot rally in a point that you won between 8:10 and 8:45. So, with a bit of tweaking of your game to decrease the rate of unnecessary errors and increase the rate of forcing shots that you hit, I can see you regularly beating those guys.

Post more vids. Good stuff!

MesQueUnClub 03-13-2013 09:56 AM

You are definitely a USTA 4.0+ . Good video.

spinorama 03-13-2013 10:04 AM

Looks good. I think 3.5 is accurate but you are playing well at that level. I think you could get more agressive and it would help your game

LeeD 03-13-2013 01:29 PM

Dude, learn to hit a second serve. Yours is even weaker than your skinny opponent's.
You swing softer than any forehand on your second serve. You SHOULD be swinging faster.

Rogael Naderer 03-13-2013 02:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeeD (Post 7271077)
Dude, learn to hit a second serve. Yours is even weaker than your skinny opponent's.
You swing softer than any forehand on your second serve. You SHOULD be swinging faster.

How is that relevant?

LeeD 03-13-2013 02:36 PM

YOU again?
It's relevant because Tony works out, is strong, should be fast, but hits his second serve slow. How slow? Even slower than his opponent, the skinny little guy.

Ashley D 03-13-2013 04:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeeD (Post 7271077)
Dude, learn to hit a second serve. Yours is even weaker than your skinny opponent's.
You swing softer than any forehand on your second serve. You SHOULD be swinging faster.

Tony, here's a video of LeeD's serve (in the cap) just so you can make an informed decision before you take his advice seriously.
http://vimeo.com/21713707

Overdrive 03-13-2013 04:14 PM

Woah guys... :shock: Mr.Lee is being honest with his constructive criticism.

All it matters is getting better right? I honestly hit a weak second serve because of pressure, and I'll learning to overcome that. :)

TomT 03-13-2013 04:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rogael Naderer (Post 7271151)
How is that relevant?

I think it's relevant insofar as we post our vids to get critiqued as well as complimented, and hopefully get some helpful suggestions for improvement.

syke 03-13-2013 10:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by luvforty (Post 7269221)
tony are you in China? how does the rating system work?

and when are you gonna start to hit to people's backhand.

Looking at the air pollution in the skies... He's definitely in China.

Relinquis 03-13-2013 11:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ashley D (Post 7271446)
Tony, here's a video of LeeD's serve (in the cap) just so you can make an informed decision before you take his advice seriously.
http://vimeo.com/21713707

Dunno if this is legitimate or not, but the guy in the cap should spend more time working on his technique, practicing and taking lessons, then telling people to swing harder*.


* His advice is right though. Need to learn a kick serve and swing faster for his 2nd serve.

syke 03-13-2013 11:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Relinquis (Post 7273199)
Dunno if this is legitimate or not, but the guy in the cap should spend more time working on his technique, practicing and taking lessons, then telling people to swing harder.

Watch it... That's the legendary LeeD you are talking about...


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