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johnchung907 03-13-2013 07:33 PM

Question about a higher takeback...
 
Hi yall, just started up with my old coach again after a couple months (I had a different one for awhile). He mentioned that on my forehand, it would be a lot better if I had a higher takeback (similar like a gasquet forehand). Is there any advantages to this? Does it give more pace or something because I have great difficulty timing my shots with this type of takeback. Using a modified eastern grip, with a loop, but go around a medium height takeback. Should I switch to what he suggests?

boramiNYC 03-13-2013 09:07 PM

any kind of E grip, I'd also recommend a very high takeback.

johnchung907 03-13-2013 09:33 PM

Well... he's talking about a takeback like gasquet. I have one similar to federer. Should I switch? When I do a higher takeback, I find it hard to time my balls.

BevelDevil 03-13-2013 10:05 PM

You should trust your coach. If you don't trust him you probably shouldn't be working with him.

A bigger loop can help make for a more smooth stroke. Also, timing can be learned through practice.

boramiNYC 03-13-2013 10:49 PM

Take back high and try to contact at a higher point. optimal being chest and shoulder high not waist high. When the takeback is low one tends to contact at a low point and the ball flies for E grip because the racquet face is quite open at a lower point. You can't hit hard and lose confidence.

Take back high and hit the ball at a high point and swing hard.

LeeD 03-14-2013 09:31 AM

High long takeback gives you more power, but you better be taken back nice and early.
Low short takeback gives you little power, but gives you great last minute control and ability to adjust to wierd bounces, speeds, and skids.
Find one that works for your game and your physiology.

sureshs 03-14-2013 09:39 AM

Today high bouncing top spin balls require a higher takeback, unless you are very tall like Karlovic.

LeeD 03-14-2013 10:00 AM

In the pros, yes.
In local A/Open on down to my ground level, maybe not.
The local Orangepower guy who won the last A/Open around here dips his rackethead waaay low on the takeback, and only adds more topspin if the ball bounces high. OK, he is 6'1" tall.

johnchung907 03-14-2013 08:03 PM

Thanks, I'll try a higher take back then.

johnchung907 03-14-2013 08:13 PM

But as I mentioned before, it is very hard to time my stroke. I usually take my racquet back to head level already...

LeeD 03-15-2013 01:10 PM

Head of the racket at your head level is high enough.
Don't raise your HAND that high.

Chas Tennis 03-15-2013 10:10 PM

Here are some detailed video analyses of what the pros are doing. Look for the forehand comparisons.

http://www.youtube.com/user/xstf/videos

I would describe all their forehands as having a high take back.

You should take videos, preferably high speed videos, of your strokes.

The book Technique Development for Stroke Production, Elliott, is an excellent reference on the modern strokes. Available from the ITF for $20.

https://store.itftennis.com/product....ript=/home.asp

I'll offer a personal opinion/speculation as to why a high take back might be important. The largest muscle attached to the arm is the lat (the muscle that works for a pull up). If the upper arm is out from the body then the lat can play more of a part in moving the arm. Does it go rapidly down a little to start the forward swing?

Three players to look at regarding an unusually high upper arm take back are Del Porto, Florian Mayer, and, recently, Gulbis.

Del Porto forehand-
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ScSEUEXEuc

Florian Mayer forehand-
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pxPSIMvITX8

Glubis 2013 forehand-
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rgaiddWCQBI

LeeD 03-16-2013 08:49 AM

If you could do exactly as the pros do, you would be hitting like a pro and not need any tips.


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