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batz 03-31-2013 02:16 PM

Nov 10th 2003
 
Was the last time that neither of Roger & Rafa were in the top 2. That's a long time ago.

MonkeyBoy 03-31-2013 02:27 PM

the bawss and the butthurt

tennis_pro 03-31-2013 02:29 PM

It took a 32-year old (playing way below average in the last 6 months) Federer and Nadal not playing tennis at all for the last 7 months for that to happen. Don't worry, while Federer is getting older and cares less about the rankings Nadal will show Murray the door soon.

The-Champ 03-31-2013 02:35 PM

Congrats Andy!!! 9 masters and a huge possibility to surpass Pete's 11 this year. Clearly the 2nd best player in the world today.

Goosehead 03-31-2013 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by tennis_pro (Post 7317182)
It took a 32-year old (playing way below average in the last 6 months) Federer and Nadal not playing tennis at all for the last 7 months for that to happen. Don't worry, while Federer is getting older and cares less about the rankings Nadal will show Murray the door soon.

Federer is 31 not 32..stop adding on years. :confused:

Goosehead 03-31-2013 02:41 PM

murray playing below his best has gone past Federer in the rankings :shock:

batz 03-31-2013 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by The Bawss (Post 7317208)
By barely scarping past the clear #5 who had to choke in order to bring an end to the sub-WTA level of tennis? Yeah ok, sure.


Cup8489 03-31-2013 02:59 PM

Let's be real, it was a crap match.

Def 03-31-2013 02:59 PM

it's crazy just to think about their consistency over the years

tennisaddict 03-31-2013 04:16 PM

Come FO, Order will be restored. Murray will be where he belongs - second rung - along with Ferrer and Delpo.

Goosehead 03-31-2013 04:26 PM

Federer was no1 / no2 rank for what he did between nov 2011 - aug 2012..

Murray has got to world no2 rank for what he did between june 2012 - and now,

same rules for everyone, same points up for grabs..Murray deserves no2 world rank.

ark_28 03-31-2013 04:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The-Champ (Post 7317190)
Congrats Andy!!! 9 masters and a huge possibility to surpass Pete's 11 this year. Clearly the 2nd best player in the world today.

To be fair that comparison is a little ridiculous! they were not masters when Pete played but super 9's and never truly carried the same weight as they did now. Had they done so Pete would have had closer to 20 and focused more on the masters he used them as tune up events and skipped a bunch of them!

Goosehead 03-31-2013 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by ark_28 (Post 7317409)
To be fair that comparison is a little ridiculous! they were not masters when Pete played but super 9's and never truly carried the same weight as they did now. Had they done so Pete would have had closer to 20 and focused more on the masters he used them as tune up events and skipped a bunch of them!

yes they did...Sampras's attitude stank away from the majors.."its all about the slams, maan"..he just couldn't be bothered.

ark_28 03-31-2013 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Goosehead (Post 7317420)
yes they did...Sampras's attitude stank away from the majors.."its all about the slams, maan"..he just couldn't be bothered.

it is but masters were no where near as important as they are now.

Hops 03-31-2013 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by ark_28 (Post 7317462)
it is but masters were no where near as important as they are now.

sure they were. relative point values were the same.

ark_28 03-31-2013 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Hops (Post 7317540)
sure they were. relative point values were the same.

Yeah and yet Pete still finished number 1 6 years ranking! Not talking about points but how they were perceived among players and fans! It's only since they have been rebranded as Masters 1000's and before that the Masters series were they viewed in a more prestigious way.

hoodjem 03-31-2013 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by batz (Post 7317157)
Was the last time that neither of Roger & Rafa were in the top 2. That's a long time ago.

You're right. Almost ten years.

FedererDropShot 03-31-2013 05:49 PM

Well, it was inevitably going to happen considering the decline of someone and the injury of someone.

Murray benefits from the downfall of others :)

Nadal's injury --> Wins Olympic Gold and USO
Federer having played a 5 setter quarters with Tsonga --> beats Fed in 5 sets (Fed's 1st serve was gone by then) in AO semis 2013 - first major win against fed.

Hops 03-31-2013 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by ark_28 (Post 7317547)
It's only since they have been rebranded as Masters 1000's and before that the Masters series were they viewed in a more prestigious way.

lol. you think the Italian Open only acquired prestige because of an ATP marketing campaign?

ark_28 03-31-2013 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Hops (Post 7317554)
lol. you think the Italian Open only acquired prestige because of an ATP marketing campaign?

You are naming one event :/ there are 9 masters collectively in the 90's the super 9s as they were then were not viewed in the same light as they are today Pete just chilled and used a lot of them as practise and a tune up to ensure he peaked for the slams!


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