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ohcaptain 04-19-2013 11:26 AM

APD and tennis elbow issues
 
Hi,

I'm having tennis elbow issues :| again after years of no problems at all.
The thing is that i mooved to APD a couple months ago.

As it's a quite rigid racquet i'm thinking there might be a relationship.

Previously i used much more flexible (and heavier) racquets: wilson six one 95, tecnifibre tfight 320....

Anyone experienced problems like this?
Anyone sees a pattern?

Thanks,
Rui

MikeHitsHard93 04-19-2013 11:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ohcaptain (Post 7354425)
Hi,

I'm having tennis elbow issues :| again after years of no problems at all.
The thing is that i mooved to APD a couple months ago.

As it's a quite rigid racquet i'm thinking there might be a relationship.

Previously i used much more flexible (and heavier) racquets: wilson six one 95, tecnifibre tfight 320....

Anyone experienced problems like this?
Anyone sees a pattern?

Thanks,
Rui

Yeah bro, that's pretty common. Either drop the poly or grab a new stick.

BreakPoint 04-19-2013 11:30 AM

If you do a search on this board you'll find plenty of people who have injured their arms using the APD (as well as many other Babolat racquets). Yes, the APD is both very stiff and very light, which is the perfect recipe for tennis elbow. And using poly strings just escalates the problem and makes it much worse.

phishbiscuits 04-19-2013 11:36 AM

Low RA, NO POLY!!!
 
The RA on Babolats (save the Pure Storms like the Ltd GT) are incredibly high...

The stiffness of the poly is also a crucial problem for your medical condition.

So, flexible racquet (think Babolat Pure Storm Ltd GT if you insist on Babolat), or those with RA's in the low 60s, or ideally, high 50s. I found that Völkl's PowerBridge 10 Mid is nice and flexible, as are some of Donnay's X-series frames. If you have some extra money to waste, go with a foam-filled frame like the Angell TC-95. Foam absorbs more shock. Which brings me to utilizing an effective vibration dampener and a comfortable compression brace.

Low-tensioned, soft nylon or multis- check the ratings of your strings that you select, for example, here:

http://www.racquetsportsindustry.com...ctor_2012.html

Or, just go full gut for a while and isolate the issue. If you change racquets and strings and the condition persists, it's either something serious, or you have technique deficiencies that require correction.

ohcaptain 04-19-2013 12:55 PM

Thanks everyone.
I use tecnifibre Black Code which i find pretty confortable string.
Let's see if i can handle this or if i have to really think of changing racquets :|

Lilguy1456 04-19-2013 01:23 PM

If my racquet/string combo is too stiff, I develop problems too. But I find that I can use a very firm poly and have NO issue if my racquet RA is low 60s or lower, no problem. I would rather give up the stiff racquet than give up poly! Plus, what kind of clown puts a multi in an APD!? :)

acura9927 04-19-2013 01:30 PM

Head Extreme Pro is you want the spin like a APD, just heavier and without question not as light to swing.

maxrenn 04-19-2013 01:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lilguy1456 (Post 7354670)
If my racquet/string combo is too stiff, I develop problems too. But I find that I can use a very firm poly and have NO issue if my racquet RA is low 60s or lower, no problem. I would rather give up the stiff racquet than give up poly! Plus, what kind of clown puts a multi in an APD!? :)

I think you were being sarcastic but if not I was wondering why would multi be bad in an APD?

cluckcluck 04-19-2013 01:36 PM

It's the stiffness. Try and sell it and get a Head Radical Pro or even Extreme.

Overdrive 04-19-2013 01:41 PM

Please do your homework before purchasing a racquet. Please!

acura9927 04-19-2013 02:08 PM

Its all Nadal's fault and his elbow made of steel.

usta2050 04-19-2013 02:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ohcaptain (Post 7354425)
Hi,

I'm having tennis elbow issues :| again after years of no problems at all.
The thing is that i mooved to APD a couple months ago.

As it's a quite rigid racquet i'm thinking there might be a relationship.

Previously i used much more flexible (and heavier) racquets: wilson six one 95, tecnifibre tfight 320....

Anyone experienced problems like this?
Anyone sees a pattern?

Thanks,
Rui

switch to a blx pro open.

usta2050 04-19-2013 02:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ohcaptain (Post 7354627)
Thanks everyone.
I use tecnifibre Black Code which i find pretty confortable string.
Let's see if i can handle this or if i have to really think of changing racquets :|

you don't really need to use your own body to test APD + POLY. hundreds of people on this board already have. people who are prone to elbow/wrist issues should avoid APD. yes, sometime it will give u more match wins but it's not worth the potential injuries.

dgoran 04-19-2013 02:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by acura9927 (Post 7354763)
Its all Nadal's fault and his elbow made of steel.

I blame babolat. Rafa's actual APD rather is 65. What's babolat offering to paying public is downright criminal with ra of over 70...

tlm 04-19-2013 02:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ohcaptain (Post 7354627)
Thanks everyone.
I use tecnifibre Black Code which i find pretty confortable string.
Let's see if i can handle this or if i have to really think of changing racquets :|

Ya right black code is really going to save you. Either drop the bab or the poly if you don't want to get full blown TE. Remember that for most people with a tendency to have elbow problems babolat+poly is a big mistake.

Lilguy1456 04-19-2013 02:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by maxrenn (Post 7354688)
I think you were being sarcastic but if not I was wondering why would multi be bad in an APD?

APD is definitely designed for a poly. A racquet with decent power designed SPECIFICALLY for spin. Would be a waste/shame to put a full multi in there.

MikeHitsHard93 04-19-2013 03:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by usta2050 (Post 7354773)
switch to a blx pro open.

No, this will not solve it. I get TE occasionally with my pro open strung with full bed of poly. 62 ra or lower will help the OP to not get TE.

RogueFLIP 04-19-2013 03:08 PM

Sorry to hear that you're having problems....

But don't forget to actually TREAT your elbow/arm, don't just switch racket/strings and expect to never get TE again.

There's plenty of threads in the Health & Fitness section about TE/GE with treatment options, I'd suggest you read up on them.

Don't forget about arm flexibility and breaking up muscle spasms/knots/trigger points.

user92626 04-19-2013 03:41 PM

I can see how apd and tight poly could hurt many of its owners. I try to be careful and sound with my strokes but occassionally I also feel some tightness bordering problem but never got there.

I'm curious..how many of you use 50# poly tension and have TE problem?

ArliHawk 04-19-2013 05:11 PM

I had the same experience, even with a multi. After moving to a Volkl Organix V1 and it had been smooth sailing ever since.


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