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JSouza 04-28-2013 03:20 AM

Clay over the Slower Hardcourts
 
Having watched many clay matches already this year, on the Golden swing and now in Europe, I am beginning to feel that there is more value in watching matches played on clay than on, say, the Melbourne Plexicushion.

The slower hardcourts that we see during the early parts of the year, I believe, produce a more homogenised style of play. I love watching the AO, don't get me wrong, but atm, Im really enthralled with whats going on in Barcelona, Stuttgart, etc.

Clay encourages you to make use of spin to create angles on the court. Theres so much moving of your opponent around, to construct an opening. It adds a chess-like motif to the match. Players do sneak in for volleys, and theres excitement even in that, as well as all the dropshots used, and the slicing and dicing that often ensues.

Like HC, it has a huge physicality element, but moving on clay, with its smoothness and sliding, seems more of an art form, to me.

What do you think? Why no love for this beautiful style of tennis before us?

FedererDropShot 04-28-2013 04:01 AM

I love Clay and Grass.

Nadal on Clay and Federer on Grass, simply stunning to watch.

Lukhas 04-28-2013 04:12 AM

I agree. I dislike slow hardcourt. Clay is more elegant in the way you play. Sometimes there are more or less justified reasons (balls being fast at IW), but the rest of the time, no. I don't need to watch fitness contests anymore.

mikeler 04-28-2013 04:36 AM

I'm a clay court fan both watching and playing. Sliding into shots is a thing of joy and beauty.

SLD76 04-28-2013 04:43 AM

Slow hardcourts are anathema. Just like fast clay.

NatF 04-28-2013 04:49 AM

Clay is better than slow hardcourts. I agree.

FreeBird 04-28-2013 05:02 AM

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Originally Posted by JSouza (Post 7372885)
Having watched many clay matches already this year, on the Golden swing and now in Europe, I am beginning to feel that there is more value in watching matches played on clay than on, say, the Melbourne Plexicushion.

The slower hardcourts that we see during the early parts of the year, I believe, produce a more homogenised style of play. I love watching the AO, don't get me wrong, but atm, Im really enthralled with whats going on in Barcelona, Stuttgart, etc.

Clay encourages you to make use of spin to create angles on the court. Theres so much moving of your opponent around, to construct an opening. It adds a chess-like motif to the match. Players do sneak in for volleys, and theres excitement even in that, as well as all the dropshots used, and the slicing and dicing that often ensues.

Like HC, it has a huge physicality element, but moving on clay, with its smoothness and sliding, seems more of an art form, to me.

What do you think? Why no love for this beautiful style of tennis before us?

AO 2013 had comparatively fast hard courts. AO 2012 had painfully slower. One thing is for sure, Watching Clay Matches is a much more pleasing experience as compared to watching those played on miserable HCs of Miami and Indian Wells.

Hitman 04-28-2013 05:20 AM

I prefer clay to the slow hard courts also. I prefer the faster HC post Wimbledon.

phnx90 04-28-2013 05:50 AM

Clay and grass are both fun to watch - the sliding and point construction is evident. Super fast tennis bores me a bit.

That said, HCs like the one at AO and USO could do with some speeding up, because super slow HC tennis is equally as boring as super fast court tennis IMO.

Sabratha 04-28-2013 07:24 PM

Clay is the most natural surface, next to grass.

Lukhas 04-28-2013 07:28 PM

Clay is piled bricks, so while it has nothing synthetic most of the time, it isn't the most natural surface. Not that I don't like clay though, it saves me so many shoes... :)

coloskier 04-29-2013 12:54 AM

Yes, I think we should change all slow hardcourts to fast hardcourts. It will save on the knees because the points are over much quicker. No??

Tennis_Hands 04-29-2013 01:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Sabratha (Post 7374996)
Clay is the most natural surface, next to grass.

Except, there are no big tournaments, that are played on real clay.

Lukhas 04-29-2013 02:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Tennis_Hands (Post 7375236)
Except, there are no big tournaments, that are played on real clay.


moonballs 04-29-2013 02:47 AM

Agree with the chess like comment. I play as much on the hartru courts as possible, because it is really more fun than hardcourt. I am anxiously waiting for our towns clay courts to be up in the first week of may. (This is in Ny. We have a late start due to cold weather).

phnx90 04-29-2013 03:38 AM

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Originally Posted by moonballs (Post 7375280)
Agree with the chess like comment. I play as much on the hartru courts as possible, because it is really more fun than hardcourt. I am anxiously waiting for our towns clay courts to be up in the first week of may. (This is in Ny. We have a late start due to cold weather).

I like tactical games - something about blasting winners 24/7 like they did on say 90s grass is so dull and not particularly "intelligent".

Sorana fan 04-29-2013 06:28 AM

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Originally Posted by coloskier (Post 7375222)
Yes, I think we should change all slow hardcourts to fast hardcourts. It will save on the knees because the points are over much quicker. No??


I'd rather change them to clay. Too many HC M1000, isnt it?

NatF 04-29-2013 06:31 AM

We have enough clay, too much hardcourt and not enough grass. Clay is better than slow hardcourt though, I find Miami so boring.

spinovic 04-29-2013 10:47 AM

I love watching tennis, period. But, I've always preferred clay and grass over hard courts.

Paul Murphy 04-29-2013 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by SLD76 (Post 7372950)
Slow hardcourts are anathema. Just like fast clay.

Well put, hear hear.


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