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Gut4Tennis 06-08-2013 08:29 PM

Jarmere Jenkins almost loses to 56yr old in a $$ tournament
 
Mark Vines might be one of the best 55 yr old age division players in the World for ITF adults, and he showed it by almost beating the NCAA singles runner up and NCAA doubles winner.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Vines

(Mark Vines (born February 23, 1957 in Richmond, Virginia, United States) is an American former tennis player. He won one singles title, the Paris Indoors tournament in 1981. Vines reached a career-high singles ranking of World No. 110 in April 1982.)

They played a super breaker for the 3rd set because the draw was backed up due to rain and they needed to play 2 singles matches in a day, and doubles and mixed as well.

Here is a pic of the old man. looks like he is playing with a wilson 2.3 hyper sledgehammer lol



Here is the draw

click on draws, and select mens open for the drop down
http://tennislink.usta.com/tournamen....aspx?T=131495

Jenkins then lost in the next round to a player not in his league....HUNTER KOONTZ of VA tech who plays #3-4 for VA Tech
http://www.hokiesports.com/mtennis/p...tz_hunter.html

He really needs a vacation

Men's Open Singles
SF (7) Hunter Koontz d. (5) Patrick Daciek 7-6(9); 6-4
SF (6) Cameron Silverman d. (1) Sanam Singh 6-7(5); 5-2Ret (inj)
Q (5) Patrick Daciek d. (2) Michael Shabaz 6-2; 7-5
Q (7) Hunter Koontz d. (3) Jarmere Jenkins 6-3; 6-3
Q (6) Cameron Silverman d. (4) Damon Gooch 7-5; 6-1
Q (1) Sanam Singh d. (8) Jakob Gustafsson 6-3; 6-2
16 (2) Michael Shabaz d. (11) Harrison O'Keefe 6-4; 6-4
16 (5) Patrick Daciek d. Kyle Allen 6-3; 6-2
16 (3) Jarmere Jenkins d. Mark Vines 6-4; 3-6; 1-0(5)
16 (7) Hunter Koontz d. (10) Trevor Spracklin 6-2; 6-4
16 (6) Cameron Silverman d. (9) Shea Thomas 6-2; 6-4
16 (4) Damon Gooch d. Marc Vartabedian 6-2; 6-2
16 (8) Jakob Gustafsson d. Patrick O'Keefe 6-0; 6-3
16 (1) Sanam Singh d. Stan Vaughan 6-1; 6-0
32 (2) Michael Shabaz d. Jordan Kaufman 6-2; 4-6; 1-0(7)
32 (11) Harrison O'Keefe d. Nicholas Bakos 6-2; 6-1
32 (5) Patrick Daciek d. Giancarlo Lemmi 6-1; 6-0
32 Kyle Allen d. Ryan Martin 6-0; 6-0
32 (3) Jarmere Jenkins d. Chiraag Shetty 6-2; 6-2
32 Mark Vines d. Kristoffer Barnes 7-5; 6-1
32 (7) Hunter Koontz d. Dejon Bivens 3-6; 7-5; 1-0(5)
32 (10) Trevor Spracklin d. Carson Greve 0-6; 6-0; 1-0(7)
32 (9) Shea Thomas d. Nicholas Wilson 7-6(3); 6-1
32 (6) Cameron Silverman d. David Martin 6-3; 6-1
32 Marc Vartabedian d. Eric Shulman 6-1; 6-4
32 (4) Damon Gooch d. Christopher Radke Wd (emerg)
32 Patrick O'Keefe d. James Smyth 6-1; 6-0
32 (8) Jakob Gustafsson d. Paul Webster 6-3; 6-0
32 Stan Vaughan d. Rodrigo Sarlo 6-1; 6-1
32 (1) Sanam Singh d. Brandon Weston 6-0; 6-0

Gut4Tennis 06-08-2013 08:55 PM

I found a video of him playing men's 55 national indoors, just 1 point :(

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HHLmgMWKSeA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fC6OtauDr6M

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0QW2e1CTbM4






Overdrive 06-09-2013 01:29 AM

The title is a little misleading. The older gentleman was a former pro, and it looks like he kept playing tennis after his professional career. It is interesting to see this man take Jenkins to the limit. Is it a bad thing that he almost lost to him even though he is a Division 1 player? Not really. If he was a recreational player, this would have looked bad on him.

However, like I stated before, the match was great because he played a former professional who had a decent ranking during his time.

2ndServe 06-09-2013 04:38 AM

the kid probably had a bad day. But I looked at the wiki and the guy looks like a journeyman from 30 years ago. This result doesn't bode well for a kid trying to make the pro tour

Nostradamus 06-09-2013 04:47 AM

Another Forum opinion about power rackets Debunked.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Overdrive (Post 7491715)
The title is a little misleading. The older gentleman was a former pro, and it looks like he kept playing tennis after his professional career. It is interesting to see this man take Jenkins to the limit. Is it a bad thing that he almost lost to him even though he is a Division 1 player? Not really. If he was a recreational player, this would have looked bad on him.

However, like I stated before, the match was great because he played a former professional who had a decent ranking during his time.

Yes but it just goes to show you that you can compete with SUPER powerful racket like Hyper hammer 115 Sq inch frame. All YOU forum players that think POWERFUL light frames can stand up to heavy hitting of college or pro players is DEBUNKED.

Nostradamus 06-09-2013 04:50 AM

Also I wonder if he used racket like that when he was a Pro. or did he have to switch to this power frame because of his Age ??? ARE we all destined to switch to such frame when we get OLD ???

Gut4Tennis 06-09-2013 06:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nostradamus (Post 7491932)
Also I wonder if he used racket like that when he was a Pro. or did he have to switch to this power frame because of his Age ??? ARE we all destined to switch to such frame when we get OLD ???

lol

omg u kill me

that that racquet is hilarious

i think i better stock up on the bay

springfieldalum 06-09-2013 08:23 AM

This is a clay tournament. Having seen Jarmere Jenkins play, I wonder how effective he is on HarTru. Who cares about someone's racquet-it's about their game and their play, not their racquet.

Gut4Tennis 06-09-2013 08:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by springfieldalum (Post 7493107)
This is a clay tournament. Having seen Jarmere Jenkins play, I wonder how effective he is on HarTru. Who cares about someone's racquet-it's about their game and their play, not their racquet.

It kinda shows when you get older even the good players need a mega powerful stiff head heavy frame

I would of paid 10 bucks to watch that match

ClarkC 06-09-2013 09:00 AM

I have many fond memories of watching SMU matches in my native Dallas when Mark Vines was there. He was the surprise singles champion of the Southwest Conference as a freshman. I was reminded of him a few years ago when a tennis columnist in Virginia spoke of him as the greatest Richmond player in the years since Arthur Ashe. Great lefty serve and volley and all-court player.

Gut4Tennis 06-09-2013 10:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ClarkC (Post 7493351)
I have many fond memories of watching SMU matches in my native Dallas when Mark Vines was there. He was the surprise singles champion of the Southwest Conference as a freshman. I was reminded of him a few years ago when a tennis columnist in Virginia spoke of him as the greatest Richmond player in the years since Arthur Ashe. Great lefty serve and volley and all-court player.

I bet its hard to get the ball past him with that monster frame.

I hope I get a chance to play him some day

Overdrive 06-09-2013 11:09 AM

This was a clay tournament? I didn't know that.

Is Jamere even effective on clay? I've seen his matches on Har-Tu courts, but I'm not sure if he's just as good on clay.

Gut4Tennis 06-09-2013 02:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Overdrive (Post 7493926)
This was a clay tournament? I didn't know that.

Is Jamere even effective on clay? I've seen his matches on Har-Tu courts, but I'm not sure if he's just as good on clay.

he grew up on clay I think in the south east coast

Overdrive 06-09-2013 04:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gut4Tennis (Post 7494483)
he grew up on clay I think in the south east coast

Oh okay. I didn't know that.

sureshs 06-09-2013 07:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nostradamus (Post 7491922)
Yes but it just goes to show you that you can compete with SUPER powerful racket like Hyper hammer 115 Sq inch frame. All YOU forum players that think POWERFUL light frames can stand up to heavy hitting of college or pro players is DEBUNKED.

Do you know if he plays it stock?

Nostradamus 06-09-2013 07:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gut4Tennis (Post 7492568)
lol

omg u kill me

that that racquet is hilarious

i think i better stock up on the bay

What I do want to know is what string setup he uses ? that old aging arm must be using gut or something similar. That racket is not setup for Gut string though. Gut will snap in few hours in that frame.

Gut4Tennis 06-09-2013 07:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nostradamus (Post 7495293)
What I do want to know is what string setup he uses ? that old aging arm must be using gut or something similar. That racket is not setup for Gut string though. Gut will snap in few hours in that frame.

I'm guessing gut mains / poly cross and string savers in a bundle :twisted:

actually looking at his strings it looks like full something and not a hybrid.

well it can be any string, but if it was full gut with string savers i would not be surprised

Leelord337 06-09-2013 09:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2ndServe (Post 7491908)
the kid probably had a bad day. But I looked at the wiki and the guy looks like a journeyman from 30 years ago. This result doesn't bode well for a kid trying to make the pro tour

still not as bad as 45ish year old thomas muster beating leonardo mayer (current top 50 player) in an atp tournament back in 2010

jaggy 06-10-2013 04:22 AM

Prince just arrived early 80s and pros changed to oversize pretty fast so he probably did play as a pro post wooden frame. Doubt he used the hyper hammer somehow back then or he clearly would have had a higher ranking.

Gut4Tennis 06-10-2013 09:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jaggy (Post 7496016)
Prince just arrived early 80s and pros changed to oversize pretty fast so he probably did play as a pro post wooden frame. Doubt he used the hyper hammer somehow back then or he clearly would have had a higher ranking.

HAHA the hyper hammers were not available until about the year 2k


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