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prostaff_fan 07-20-2013 09:25 AM

Does anyone feel that Federer should have switched to 93" prostaff?
 
After looking at Federer play the first few matches with the 98" racquet, I feel its just not suited for his game. I have been skeptical about the big change in headsize and I have wondered why he did not slowly increase headsize with the same prostaff, rather than gambling with a completely new racquet. I feel he could have asked Wilson to do a custom 91 or 92 or 93 " prostaff keeping the same characteristics of the PS 90. With every inch increase in headsize, you sacrifice a little something in precision and power and I feel that 8 inches is just too big of a difference to adjust too.

sureshs 07-20-2013 09:34 AM

I don't think Wilson will go so far for him now, though we may think so. He is on the decline and why would a company go out of the way for him at this stage.

The new racket can only slow down the decline.

BreakPoint 07-20-2013 10:10 AM

Federer already tried the custom ProStaff 93 that Wilson made for him years ago. He didn't like it and passed on it and stayed with his 90. That's the ProStaff 93 that Dimitrov is now using.

Vcore89 07-20-2013 10:44 AM

Now that he got beat in the semis of a 250, by a qualifier may mean the end of the 98 experimentation (done with the honeymoon?)? I hope he reverts back to his trusty 90 or better yet, get back to 85 or even the K88 (which I had no business using except it was really big on serves). My two pence.

prostaff_fan 07-20-2013 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by BreakPoint (Post 7603394)
Federer already tried the custom ProStaff 93 that Wilson made for him years ago. He didn't like it and passed on it and stayed with his 90. That's the ProStaff 93 that Dimitrov is now using.

I did not know that. Thanks!

kingcheetah 07-20-2013 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by sureshs (Post 7603333)
I don't think Wilson will go so far for him now, though we may think so. He is on the decline and why would a company go out of the way for him at this stage.

Because he is the GOAT and still Wilson's highest-ranked player. Since Del Potro is using an old old paint job, federer is really the face of the company for the men's players. Unless people start buying racquets from Serena, Wilson needs Fed's marketing power, and thus will cater to him.

SwankPeRFection 07-20-2013 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Vcore89 (Post 7603468)
Now that he got beat in the semis of a 250, by a qualifier may mean the end of the 98 experimentation (done with the honeymoon?)? I hope he reverts back to his trusty 90 or better yet, get back to 85 or even the K88 (which I had no business using except it was really big on serves). My two pence.

Hamburg is a 500. Thanks for playing.

Pistol Pete 07-20-2013 01:29 PM

You guys are too much. Wilson won't go far for Federer?
Wow I am so surprised how little these boards actually know.
If Fed asked Wilson to fly to Switzerland ASAP they would be on the first plane.
As for head size my personal opinion is he wants to switch and he is trying all his options. I think a simple 93 or 95 pro staff would be reasonable but why not try something really different and new.
I also believe he didn't expect to win these 2 events. It's more great ways to test the racket and get matches and hope to peak for the hard courts and open.

Athletes look at the really big picture not the little picture like how everyone here lives and dies by every match.

RFRF 07-20-2013 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Pistol Pete (Post 7603737)
You guys are too much. Wilson won't go far for Federer?
Wow I am so surprised how little these boards actually know.
If Fed asked Wilson to fly to Switzerland ASAP they would be on the first plane.
As for head size my personal opinion is he wants to switch and he is trying all his options. I think a simple 93 or 95 pro staff would be reasonable but why not try something really different and new.
I also believe he didn't expect to win these 2 events. It's more great ways to test the racket and get matches and hope to peak for the hard courts and open.

Athletes look at the really big picture not the little picture like how everyone here lives and dies by every match.

Agree fully with u, IMO 8 inches is way to much for a player of his style.

tata 07-20-2013 05:26 PM

perhaps he tanked it just to get some rest and play and fiddle with the racquet off the court. it's possible after 3 matches he's got a feel of the frame and knows what needs to be changed. it is a prototype after all.

SwankPeRFection 07-20-2013 09:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Pistol Pete (Post 7603737)
You guys are too much. Wilson won't go far for Federer?
Wow I am so surprised how little these boards actually know.
If Fed asked Wilson to fly to Switzerland ASAP they would be on the first plane.
As for head size my personal opinion is he wants to switch and he is trying all his options. I think a simple 93 or 95 pro staff would be reasonable but why not try something really different and new.
I also believe he didn't expect to win these 2 events. It's more great ways to test the racket and get matches and hope to peak for the hard courts and open.

Athletes look at the really big picture not the little picture like how everyone here lives and dies by every match.

Really? So then why did Wilson simply send him a Blade 98 (which might be custom drilled, but we're unsure of just quite yet since it does look like it has a tighter center pattern than retail)? Why not give him some other design that's not been seen yet? Cuz they just give him whatever they have a maybe do a little bit of custom changes to it, but not a complete bottom to top one-off construction.

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Originally Posted by tata (Post 7604031)
perhaps he tanked it just to get some rest and play and fiddle with the racquet off the court. it's possible after 3 matches he's got a feel of the frame and knows what needs to be changed. it is a prototype after all.

By Pistol Pete's example above, then Wilson should have had the presses running all night and getting him 10 new sticks with the new specs before the match in the morning for the Finals. :rolleyes:

Seriously, why tank a 500 point tournament when you're playing it because you want those points to get back up to a number other than 5... which you cannot personally stand because it's the lowest you've had in about a billion years on tour. He's close to sliding even further down if one of the other guys less than 1000 points under him have a good turnout in a couple of tournaments back to back. He was looking to get 500 pints in this one and 250 in the Credit Swiss one (along with the fact that he's their poster boy as well, so another plus) before going to Roger's Cup to pick up whatever points he could there to bounce back up before the US Open.

BreakPoint 07-20-2013 09:30 PM

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Originally Posted by SwankPeRFection (Post 7604324)
Really? So then why did Wilson simply send him a Blade 98 (which might be custom drilled, but we're unsure of just quite yet since it does look like it has a tighter center pattern than retail)? Why not give him some other design that's not been seen yet? Cuz they just give him whatever they have a maybe do a little bit of custom changes to it, but not a complete bottom to top one-off construction.

I guess you didn't see the WSJ article with the interview with Wilson? They specifically stated that Federer's prototype is NOT a Blade and that's it's a custom racquet that Wilson just developed in its labs for Federer and is not currently in production nor sold in stores.

Vcore89 07-20-2013 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by SwankPeRFection (Post 7603608)
Hamburg is a 500. Thanks for playing.

My bad.:oops:

Vcore89 07-20-2013 10:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SwankPeRFection (Post 7604324)
Really? So then why did Wilson simply send him a Blade 98 (which might be custom drilled, but we're unsure of just quite yet since it does look like it has a tighter center pattern than retail)? Why not give him some other design that's not been seen yet? Cuz they just give him whatever they have a maybe do a little bit of custom changes to it, but not a complete bottom to top one-off construction.

Not a Blade but a proto.:)

Vcore89 07-20-2013 10:27 PM

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Originally Posted by SwankPeRFection (Post 7604324)
Seriously, why tank a 500 point tournament when you're playing it because you want those points to get back up to a number other than 5... which you cannot personally stand because it's the lowest you've had in about a billion years on tour. He's close to sliding even further down if one of the other guys less than 1000 points under him have a good turnout in a couple of tournaments back to back. He was looking to get 500 pints in this one and 250 in the Credit Swiss one (along with the fact that he's their poster boy as well, so another plus) before going to Roger's Cup to pick up whatever points he could there to bounce back up before the US Open.

...he'll play a challenger just to get that winning feeling, not to do with a 500 or 250.

...don't discount ''the man'' from the USO, just yet and the WTF too. Losing at the 500s or 250s isn't loosely (or tightly) coupled with losing the biggies.

Pistol Pete 07-21-2013 06:18 AM

SwankPerfection doesn't get the industry or tennis and doesn't get Fed is the face of Wilson and they will do anything for him.

Some people just don't get it.

monfed 07-21-2013 06:27 AM

Yea, I'd rather he'd have switched to Dimi's stick than the 98, but maybe he tried it and didn't like it? IDK . Really hope he atleast tried it out this year though, but hey this is the GOAT we're talking about so I leave it to his good judgement. I'm sure Roger knows what's best for him.

SwankPeRFection 07-21-2013 07:59 AM

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Originally Posted by BreakPoint (Post 7604331)
I guess you didn't see the WSJ article with the interview with Wilson? They specifically stated that Federer's prototype is NOT a Blade and that's it's a custom racquet that Wilson just developed in its labs for Federer and is not currently in production nor sold in stores.

Would you like cherry or grape Koolaid? :lol:

Seriously, it's pretty close to a Blade 98. The beam layout, etc. The only thing that's different from the looks is the string pattern and it's tightness in the center.

Generally speaking, if the frame was a Blade 98 custom drilled, Wilson would be well within truth to say the racquet was a custom frame build specifically for him and not available in stores... because it's not due to the different drilling pattern on it.

Besides, what sounds better? "We picked something off the shelf and changed a few small things and handed it to him." or "We custom build a racquet in our test lab specifically for him." :rolleyes:


Generally speaking, when you're developing a prototype for someone like this and you have something in your normal list of products that already fits 80% of the needs, you start with that as your base. 98", throat and beam design like a Blade 98... go with that and change a few things on it specific to his needs.

Bottom line, is it exactly a retail Blade 98. No, of course not. But it's not a one-off custom job from the mold to the paint either.

Bartelby 07-21-2013 08:03 AM

No. A picture of Federer's Blade in another thread makes it clear that it has a boxy throat and hoop most unlinke the retail Blade, so it could be the Wilson version of the Prestige.

mellowyellow 07-21-2013 08:09 AM

I would imagine he is playing with what he feels would give the greatest gain and the least change of feel. I also believe this is just the surface of testing that has been going on for some time now. This is not a haphazard Brad said or TT forums said deal. He recognized long ago the correlation of changing from the 85 to the 90 and the slams that ensued...


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