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nitram10 08-01-2013 07:06 AM

Keep framing the serve! please help!
 
This is so frustrating that I will send some money through paypal to anyone that can find the solution! lol

I have a weird problem that keeps coming up on my serve. Its mainly when I try a kick serve but it even happens when I try to slice. I frame the ball but it is with the bottom edge of the racquet not the leading edge. I can hit a good kick and slice serve but on some nights this keeps happening and it is embarrassing. It is like I am over pronating with my wrist and catching the bottom edge. It is not that I am pulling my head down and not watching the ball bc I over exaggerate keeping my head up when this does happen and it still doesnt help. So I thought maybe it was my grip so I tried using a full eastern backhand and I still do it. I am attaching a picture of my continental grip which I serve with. Maybe someone can find fault in my grip or offer any other tips to help me! Thanks.


nitram10 08-01-2013 07:11 AM

Picture didnt post here is a picture, excuse the grip it is an old racquet that i dont use.

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5263 08-01-2013 07:13 AM

I'd say you are letting your focus drift out to your target in the svc box
just before contact. If you bring your entire focus to the contact, you
will never frame or mishit, but over time it shift further out and happens
sooner till next thing you know, MIShits!

RetroSpin 08-01-2013 07:58 AM

Maybe your toss is getting a bit low?

Mongolmike 08-01-2013 08:04 AM

Use a Donnay... aren't most of them very narrow beam sticks?

nitram10 08-01-2013 08:05 AM

Retro, I have thought about that too and when I try to raise the toss same thing happens...

Lukhas 08-01-2013 10:25 AM

Happens to me when I forget to look at the god damn ball long enough.

Chas Tennis 08-01-2013 10:36 AM

High speed video will show you what you are doing. It's usually the only method that works for sure.

About the cheapest camera that might get you limited but useful high speed video is one of the Canon Powershot cameras like this one.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chas Tennis (Post 7620730)
I commented on the Canon Powershot ELPH 110 HS - refurbished earlier in reply #14. Cheaper now until July 31........

http://shop.usa.canon.com/shop/en/ca...e_Product_Feed

I'm getting one to give it a try.

See also reply #843
http://www.golfwrx.com/forums/topic/.../page__st__840

goran_ace 08-01-2013 11:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 5263 (Post 7627888)
I'd say you are letting your focus drift out to your target in the svc box
just before contact. If you bring your entire focus to the contact, you
will never frame or mishit, but over time it shift further out and happens
sooner till next thing you know, MIShits!

Agreed. This is likely the culprit. Just because the OP is keeping his head it doesn't necesarily mean he's looking at the ball. Normally when an instructor tells you to keep your head up it is to keep you from prematurely opening your shoulders. I don't like people conciously trying to keep their head up because it affects the smoothness of the swing as they try to hold it there and don't release, eyes drift, etc. Instead I like to tell people to keep their eyes up on serves and overheads. If your eyes are focused on the ball your head will follow and also stay up and it feels more natural.

10s talk 08-01-2013 12:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 5263 (Post 7627888)
I'd say you are letting your focus drift out to your target in the svc box
just before contact. If you bring your entire focus to the contact, you
will never frame or mishit, but over time it shift further out and happens
sooner till next thing you know, MIShits!

I agree 100%.....your margin of error is minimal when you hit a spin serve, an inch or so off, and you frame the ball

mikeler 08-01-2013 02:16 PM

Change that Petri dish grip tape and watch the damn ball.

5263 08-01-2013 02:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mikeler (Post 7629025)
Change that Petri dish grip tape and watch the damn ball.

thanks guys and I like this funny one above :)

10s talk 08-01-2013 04:46 PM

Show us the money

BaselineB 08-02-2013 12:43 AM

I'd be framing too if I used my left hand for serves :P

But seriously, when I frame a ball it's usually an over acceleration issue, or as stated above, looking at the target way too soon!

Jkramer 08-07-2013 03:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nitram10 (Post 7627868)
This is so frustrating that I will send some money through paypal to anyone that can find the solution! lol

I have a weird problem that keeps coming up on my serve. Its mainly when I try a kick serve but it even happens when I try to slice. I frame the ball but it is with the bottom edge of the racquet not the leading edge. I can hit a good kick and slice serve but on some nights this keeps happening and it is embarrassing. It is like I am over pronating with my wrist and catching the bottom edge. It is not that I am pulling my head down and not watching the ball bc I over exaggerate keeping my head up when this does happen and it still doesnt help. So I thought maybe it was my grip so I tried using a full eastern backhand and I still do it. I am attaching a picture of my continental grip which I serve with. Maybe someone can find fault in my grip or offer any other tips to help me! Thanks.


you could have accelerated the racket too fast too soon and almost went over the impact point before the ball -- touched the ball with trailing edge. accelerate up slow and gradually while glue the eyes to the ball.


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