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Down_the_line 09-10-2013 09:46 AM

2013 Davis Cup Semifinal: CANADA vs SERBIA
 
2013 Davis Cup - World Group Semifinal
Canada vs. Serbia
September 13 - 15
Belgrade Arena - Belgrade, Serbia
Surface: Red clay, indoors

Head to Head: First meeting


Team Canada:

Milos Raonic
-ATP singles rank: 11

Vasek Pospisil
-ATP singles rank: 41

Frank Dancevic
-ATP singles rank: 135

Daniel Nestor
-ATP doubles rank: 13


Team Serbia:

Novak Djokovic
-ATP singles rank: 1

Janko Tipsarevic
-ATP singles rank: 23

Dusan Lajovic
-ATP singles rank: 142

Nenad Zimonjic
-ATP doubles rank: 12

Down_the_line 09-10-2013 09:52 AM

I think Canada can definitely take 2 rubbers here: Raonic vs Tipsarevic and Nestor/Pospisil vs Zimonjic and whoever in doubles. It really will come down to, who can take that 3rd rubber?

clayqueen 09-10-2013 09:58 AM

Nole and Raonic have never played each other. That should be interesting.

papertank 09-10-2013 11:16 AM

It will probably come down to if Vasek can beat Tipsarevic, which given both player's form right now is very possible. It would be the biggest win of his career. Novak should win both matches, and Raonic should beat Tipsarevic. The Canadians will be the favorite in doubles but not an overwhelming one.

Chico 09-10-2013 12:26 PM

Novak will be tired. No time to rest and overcome jet-lag. Canada to win.

coolboarder 09-10-2013 01:08 PM

Milos and Novak have never met and everybody assumes that Novak will win. How do we predict that Novak will win for sure? If there is history with the head to head, then it would be easier to predict the match. That is the best part of this is that the match is played on the tennis court, not on the paper. Upsets do happen and I think this could be one of them. My pet peeve of the prediction based on the rankings, not the h2h stats, even it is their first ever meeting.

Now, Novak will have the jet-lag and we are not so sure if Milos and Novak will actually have a match as the strategy from Serbia could be based on how Serbia play the tie and rest Novak on the day 1. If there is an upset on the day 1, you can bet that there will be likely dead rubber on day 3.

ilovetennis212 09-10-2013 01:23 PM

Novak will pull out his Davis cup matches if he is smart to defend titles in china and shanghai.
Novak won't be able defend his two titles in Asia and give no.1 ranking to rafa if Novak plays Davis cup matches.

Chico 09-10-2013 01:40 PM

He can't defend #1 anyway now. But yes, he should pull out of Davis Cup.

CDNguy87 09-10-2013 01:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by coolboarder (Post 7748279)
Milos and Novak have never met and everybody assumes that Novak will win. How do we predict that Novak will win for sure? If there is history with the head to head, then it would be easier to predict the match. That is the best part of this is that the match is played on the tennis court, not on the paper. Upsets do happen and I think this could be one of them. My pet peeve of the prediction based on the rankings, not the h2h stats, even it is their first ever meeting.

Now, Novak will have the jet-lag and we are not so sure if Milos and Novak will actually have a match as the strategy from Serbia could be based on how Serbia play the tie and rest Novak on the day 1. If there is an upset on the day 1, you can bet that there will be likely dead rubber on day 3.


Another important thing to consider is that Novak has a relatively weak record against big-servers. See for example his negative H2H against Roddick and his 2 upset losses the last couple of years to Isner.

ruerooo 09-10-2013 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by clayqueen (Post 7747683)
Nole and Raonic have never played each other. That should be interesting.

There was an article heavily quoting Milos - I think "Amelie Mauresmo" (or the poster posing as her) posted it - all about how serious he was about "taking it to" Serbia, and how much he believed the Canadians had the team & tools to accomplish it.

I'm guessing he had to have interviewed for it before the US Open final, because Nole will be looking for something to obliterate.

papertank 09-10-2013 02:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by coolboarder (Post 7748279)
Milos and Novak have never met and everybody assumes that Novak will win. How do we predict that Novak will win for sure? If there is history with the head to head, then it would be easier to predict the match. That is the best part of this is that the match is played on the tennis court, not on the paper. Upsets do happen and I think this could be one of them. My pet peeve of the prediction based on the rankings, not the h2h stats, even it is their first ever meeting.

Now, Novak will have the jet-lag and we are not so sure if Milos and Novak will actually have a match as the strategy from Serbia could be based on how Serbia play the tie and rest Novak on the day 1. If there is an upset on the day 1, you can bet that there will be likely dead rubber on day 3.

I just don't think Milos has the potential to take out Djokovic yet. Each time Isner has upset Djokovic his serve has played a big part but he also took it to Djokovic in rallies. Milos just isn't consistent enough to do that for an entire match against Djokovic, and his serve honestly hasn't looked as great this year as it has in other years so he can't solely rely on it. I'd love for Milos to get this upset, but I just don't see it.

T-Noone 09-10-2013 02:19 PM

This should be an easy win for Serbia 4-1.

Chico 09-10-2013 02:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by T-Noone (Post 7748482)
This should be an easy win for Serbia 4-1.

But Canada will win 3-2. With rested Djokovic it is 3-2 for Serbia (Raonic vs Tipsy and doubles are two for Canada).

However I doubt Novak will be able to play on Friday.

Gonzo_style 09-10-2013 02:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ilovetennis212 (Post 7748322)
Novak will pull out his Davis cup matches if he is smart to defend titles in china and shanghai.
Novak won't be able defend his two titles in Asia and give no.1 ranking to rafa if Novak plays Davis cup matches.

Disagree with this.
#1 is already lost, Nadal needs QF at Shanghai to replace Djokovic on #1.
For Djokovic, it would be better to skip Shanghai and Beijing and to focus on Davis Cup and WTFs.
I would suggest him to play a few matches in Paris as a warm-up for WTFs.

jaggy 09-10-2013 02:59 PM

This could be real fun, wish it was in Canada but still

Strategy 09-10-2013 03:33 PM

I'm happy to see Canada win but I think the run stops here. Unless Novak pulls out, I don't see them pulling off the upset. I can't even see Pospisil beating Tipsarevic..

JadeC 09-10-2013 06:51 PM

Good. More tennis so I can forget about that US Open final. :(
Though I think Canada has a good chance of taking this tie.

ilovetennis212 09-10-2013 06:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gonzo_style (Post 7748501)
#1 is already lost, Nadal needs QF at Shanghai to replace Djokovic on #1.
For Djokovic, it would be better to skip Shanghai and Beijing and to focus on Davis Cup and WTFs.
I would suggest him to play a few matches in Paris as a warm-up for WTFs.

I don't think so.
Djokovic wants to defend points and win bercy if he can.
Novak knows he still has chance in indoors and he can end up YE no.1

ilovetennis212 09-10-2013 06:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gonzo_style (Post 7748501)
#1 is already lost, Nadal needs QF at Shanghai to replace Djokovic on #1.
For Djokovic, it would be better to skip Shanghai and Beijing and to focus on Davis Cup and WTFs.
I would suggest him to play a few matches in Paris as a warm-up for WTFs.

I don't think so.
Djokovic wants to defend points and win bercy if he can.
Novak knows he still has chance in indoors and he can end up YE no.1.

Max G. 09-10-2013 07:16 PM

Right now, Djokovic is more than 3000 points behind Nadal in the Race.

Thats' a *huge* deficit. To make it up, he'd have to win both upcoming Masters events AND the WTF, with Nadal not even getting to the finals of them.

It seems fairly unlikely, and basically out of his hands - Nadal doesn't even have to win upcoming events, just make it to quarters and semis and stuff like that, to end as #1 no matter how well Djokovic does.


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