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tonygao 10-17-2013 11:49 PM

please rate two friends of mines
 
first vid, I was on the far end with purple shirt, my friend was in blue shirt.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2mKoqIghj_s


second vid, my friend was playing against another friend, who was in red shirt.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=agvKSTCOGc4

please let me know what you think about their levels.

thanks.

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after having seen the first a few replies, I decided to add some background info.

first vid, no editing except for DF, recording two complete games. final score: blue beat purple by 6:2
second vid, only includes HL, actually red player made lots of DFs and UEs. final score: blue beat read by 6:1

now, please continue the rating............

nhat8121 10-17-2013 11:55 PM

1st guy, weak 4.0
2nd guy, solid 4.0

thegreatgiroux 10-18-2013 12:25 AM

I'd pretty much agree with that...
The guy in the blue would honestly be a really good 3.5 or a really weak 4.0.
The guy in the Red seems solidly a 4.0.

tennismonkey 10-18-2013 05:47 AM

1st guy in blue: low 3.5. needs better footwork and anticipation.

2nd guy in red: solid 4.0 to possibly low 4.5. opponent in blue shirt didn't have the weapons to expose what looked like a weak backhand side. a stronger opponent might be able to pick on this side and get a lot of short balls. blue shirt had a lot of short balls that he attempted to attack but he had almost no transition game.

Mrnoital 10-18-2013 05:56 AM

First video,
Purple - 4.0
Blue - 3.0-3.5

2nd video
Red guy's serve looks good for a 4.0 but his shots are pretty loopy for a 4.0.

fruitytennis1 10-18-2013 06:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mrnoital (Post 7828514)
Red guy's serve looks good for a 4.0 but his shots are pretty loopy for a 4.0.

Wrong.......

rkelley 10-18-2013 06:46 AM

Just looked at the first video and focused on Mr. blue shirt. I'd say 3.5, maybe a weak 4.0. I never saw him hit a bh (which is Mr. purple shirt's fault - good on Mr. blue shirt for being able to run around every bh), so I can't comment on this usually critical stroke. His fh and serve both have some significant technical issues, but he gets them over pretty consistently and they're effective enough.

BlueB 10-18-2013 08:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tonygao (Post 7828118)
first vid, I was on the far end with purple shirt, my friend was in blue shirt.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2mKoqIghj_s

You got robbed at 1'17" :)

Mr.Lob 10-18-2013 09:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tonygao (Post 7828118)
first vid, I was on the far end with purple shirt, my friend was in blue shirt.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2mKoqIghj_s


second vid, my friend was playing against another friend, who was in red shirt.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=agvKSTCOGc4

please let me know what you think about their levels.

thanks.

************************
after having seen the first a few replies, I decided to add some background info.

first vid, no editing except for DF, recording two complete games. final score: blue beat purple by 6:2
second vid, only includes HL, actually red player made lots of DFs and UEs. final score: blue beat read by 6:1

now, please continue the rating............

I'd say blue guy a solid 3.0 or weak 3.5
Red shirt 3.5 to weak 4.0

Mrnoital 10-18-2013 09:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fruitytennis1 (Post 7828566)
Wrong.......

Well since you were not very specific. What exactly was I wrong about? Wrong that they are loopy or wrong that they are loopy for a 4.0? My daughter's a 4.0 and does not hit loopy shots like what's in the video very often.

Mrnoital 10-18-2013 09:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr.Lob (Post 7829000)
I'd say blue guy a solid 3.0 or weak 3.5
Red shirt 3.5 to weak 4.0

According to Fruity you are WRONG!

Graf1stClass 10-18-2013 10:02 AM

1st: 3.5
2nd: 4.0

I'd take 'em both to 5 sets, give 'em some pain.

Mrnoital 10-18-2013 10:07 AM

After watching again a 4.0 should be able to rally for more than 3 or 4 shots and you can't blame it on the guy in the blue because the red guy has a lot of unforced errors as well. My daughter's matches as a 4.0 have 10-12 ball rallies all the time and their shots are not as loopy.

MurrayMyInspiration 10-18-2013 10:10 AM

I rate them both as bad players. Not very good at tennis.

Tight Lines 10-18-2013 10:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MurrayMyInspiration (Post 7829159)
I rate them both as bad players. Not very good at tennis.

Congratulations! You are the first to be on my Ignore List.

Harry

GoaLaSSo 10-18-2013 10:35 AM

Loopy does not mean they are bad... A lot of really good players hit loopy strokes.

These ratings are pretty harsh. I can't really tell how good purple is because of how short the video is.

The blue and red guy have some solid points and both consistently hit the ball pretty deep. Other than a few silly mistakes they seemed to be pretty good. Both guys have solid movement as well. Blue's footwork could use some work, but he still is pretty fast. His serve isn't the greatest, but he makes up for it in other areas.

It is hard to tell over camera, but I would say red and blue are at least solid 4.0 and my gut tells me closer to 4.5.

Edit : Just read that these were the highlights... You can't really tell how good people are based on highlights. I would say both would fall in 4.0 then if they had a lot of points with errors.

Topspin Shot 10-18-2013 10:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tight Lines (Post 7829208)
Congratulations! You are the first to be on my Ignore List.

Harry

Is that you in blue? And I would rate these players in the 4.0 range, probably closer to 4.5 than 3.5.

rkelley 10-18-2013 11:09 AM

Watched the second video. Mr. Red Shirt has some decent strokes. bh slice was the weakest thing I saw. The biggest issue is that he just seems to be walking over to a number of his strokes. I realize that with all of the moon balls it takes forever and a day for the ball to get over the net, but he needs to take the set-up seriously. That should help reduce the UFEs. The other thing for Mr. Red Shirt is to use the whole court on both sides. Make Mr. Blue Shirt hit some bhs, hit short and bring Mr. Blue Shirt in and then pass him or lob him. And he can come in himself a lot more. Push Mr. Blue Shirt back on the bh side, come in, and hit the volley or the overhead. It doesn't appear that Mr. Blue Shirt would have an answer to a deep ball the bh and Mr. Red Shirt up at the net other than to lob.

Mr. Red Shirt has the better strokes. If he can cut down the UFEs and DFs, and develop a strategy he should be able beat Mr. Blue Shirt.

The level thing is so hard to do because while the strokes look like a solid 4.0, if he can't beat the Mr. Blue Shirt then he's not there yet.

Graf1stClass 10-18-2013 11:25 AM

lol, "Mr. Red Shirt"

Mrnoital 10-18-2013 01:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GoaLaSSo (Post 7829211)
Loopy does not mean they are bad... A lot of really good players hit loopy strokes.

:confused: Loopy shots = easily attacked. I've never heard anyone actually claim loopy shots are an asset.


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