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adil1972 10-25-2013 02:26 AM

jimmy conoors different stats
 
according to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jimmy_Connors

connors has won 110 tournaments and 1249 singles matches
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Connors won 110 ATP-listed singles titles, more than any other male player in the open era.
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His career win-loss record of 1249–277 (81.85%) is second after Björn Borg (82.7%).

accoding to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o..._Roger_Federer

connors has won 109 tournaments and 1243 singles matches
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Federer is the fourth male player to win more than 900 singles matches after Connors (1243), Ivan Lendl (1071) and Guillermo Vilas (926). Only Martina Navratilova (1442) and Chris Evert (1309) have won more singles matches.
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Federer has won 77 titles in his career, tied with McEnroe for the third most singles titles won by a tennis player in the open era (17 GS, 6 YEC, 21 Masters 1000, 12 ATP 500 Series, 21 ATP 250 Series). In the open era only Connors (109) and Lendl (94) have won more titles than Federer in their career.
who is right among these two

jrepac 10-28-2013 04:03 PM

not so sure if it matters much....those #s are not going to be touched by anyone, it appears. I actually thought Fed would be able to pull it off, but looks like he's running out of gas....

timnz 10-29-2013 02:49 PM

ATP Inconsistent
 
The ATP recently changed it's site to say that Connors won 110 tournaments - up from 109. They did this by counting the 1976 Nottingham tournament as a win, even though the final (against Nastase) was abandoned due to rain. But this is an odd move because they didn't at the same time include the 1981 Monte Carlo event as a win, even though it was abandoned for rain in the final also (against Vilas). The 1984 Rotterdam final was discontinued (against Lendl) because of a bomb scare, but they didn't count that either.

My view - either count all the abandoned finals as tournament wins - or count none of them - not some of them.

My feeling is that the finalists shouldn't be awarded tournament wins - rather they should both be regarded as runner-up.

kiki 10-29-2013 03:23 PM

it was even worse at 1980 Palm Springs with Connors,Mayer,Fleming and Teacher due to play the semis.But due to rain, they could not play the semis, much less the final...can you award a win to 4 different players???

jrepac 10-29-2013 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by timnz (Post 7855335)
The ATP recently changed it's site to say that Connors won 110 tournaments - up from 109. They did this by counting the 1976 Nottingham tournament as a win, even though the final (against Nastase) was abandoned due to rain. But this is an odd move because they didn't at the same time include the 1981 Monte Carlo event as a win, even though it was abandoned for rain in the final also (against Vilas). The 1984 Rotterdam final was discontinued (against Lendl) because of a bomb scare, but they didn't count that either.

My view - either count all the abandoned finals as tournament wins - or count none of them - not some of them.

My feeling is that the finalists shouldn't be awarded tournament wins - rather they should both be regarded as runner-up.

I was thinking the same thing. Why just Nottingham? Very weird! I agree with you...should be the same rule applied to all.

kiki 03-29-2014 11:12 AM

in 81 Connors gave european red clay his best try.He played the finals at Hamburg and Montecarlo.I don´t think he has ever done it before and he certainly didn´t do it later.

Did he ever play at the Foro Italico? after 73 I mean.

BobbyOne 03-29-2014 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by timnz (Post 7855335)
The ATP recently changed it's site to say that Connors won 110 tournaments - up from 109. They did this by counting the 1976 Nottingham tournament as a win, even though the final (against Nastase) was abandoned due to rain. But this is an odd move because they didn't at the same time include the 1981 Monte Carlo event as a win, even though it was abandoned for rain in the final also (against Vilas). The 1984 Rotterdam final was discontinued (against Lendl) because of a bomb scare, but they didn't count that either.

My view - either count all the abandoned finals as tournament wins - or count none of them - not some of them.

My feeling is that the finalists shouldn't be awarded tournament wins - rather they should both be regarded as runner-up.

timnz, ATP had Connors also at 107 tournaments in recent years.


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