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AnaMc 01-16-2014 09:26 AM

Do you fake your return position?
 
To fool the server.

How often?

arche3 01-16-2014 09:34 AM

Ana.... you sound very young. How old are you? Are you a high school girls varsity team player? Keep in mind ttw has a lot of bad posters with suspect technique.

SouthboundAgain 01-16-2014 09:37 AM

Fake the return position? As in start in one position and as the server tosses the ball move to a completely other direction? Not sure if it is worth the effort, and you may be more easily off-balance. I also doubt it bothers a competent server.

If you want to tinker with your returning position, figure out where the server likes to serve, and force him to prove that he can hit it somewhere else with the same success. Most people have a preferred serve location.

mightyrick 01-16-2014 09:43 AM

There's really no value in faking a return position. Until you split step, people generally don't know where the ball is going anyways. You could actually fake yourself into a worse receiving position.

Dimcorner 01-16-2014 09:48 AM

There was a guy who would just pace the base line while I was preparing my serve. Didn't bother me one bit since I didn't care where he stood for my serve. In fact he almost took one to the chest because I short-tossed one and hit a good flat serve and he was mid step when I hit the shot.

You could be doing jumping jacks for all I cared, I already made up my mind where my serve is going regardless if you change position.

gameboy 01-16-2014 09:54 AM

Do it all the time.

If I see that the server is better with one side over the other, say a wicked slice out wide, I may stand well out to the right before the serve to encourage the server to serve down the middle. When the server tosses the ball, I takes few steps back to the middle to center myself.

it usually works pretty well.

Manus Domini 01-16-2014 10:07 AM

Don't do it. You may position yourself badly (and if I notice you're doing it, I'll just hit it towards where you were).

AnaMc 01-16-2014 10:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arche3 (Post 8023397)
Ana.... you sound very young. How old are you? Are you a high school girls varsity team player? Keep in mind ttw has a lot of bad posters with suspect technique.

Hi Arche3, nice to meet you.

I am 17. Yes I am playing for my varsity team.

Why do you say there are bad posters?

Ballinbob 01-16-2014 11:48 AM

I have the same return position regardless of the server. If I'm facing a lefty with a good slice out wide Ill cheat over to that serve, but that's the only exception I can think of

dman72 01-16-2014 12:05 PM

I only do it when I'm looking to run around a forehand and crush a serve return. I anticipate is going to go wide to my backhand. Of course, if you guess wrong you're toast, so I reserve it for times when I'm up 0-40 or 15-40...which isn't often. :(

AnaMc 01-16-2014 12:08 PM

Pros actually do it all the time - fake tight, then step back, or fake far back and step in.

arche3 01-16-2014 12:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AnaMc (Post 8023555)
Hi Arche3, nice to meet you.

I am 17. Yes I am playing for my varsity team.

Why do you say there are bad posters?

Glad you enjoy tennis enough to try to better your tennis. I say bad posters because you know the thread with the guy serving? If you follow some of the advice here that will be your serve. And then there are the trolls.

tennis_hack 01-16-2014 12:28 PM

Yep, I fake and double bluff as well - i.e. they think I'm faking and hit to where I'm standing, thinking I'll move back to the middle, but then I just stay there out wide and am in the perfect position.

Then we get into multiple levels of bluff and it gets complicated.

Do the same thing with poaching at the net.

dominikk1985 01-16-2014 12:45 PM

I'm rarely faking but I will cheat occasionally.

Cheetah 01-16-2014 12:48 PM

Hmm.. So Ana.., you're 17? And female?
You play with a 1hbh?
How did you hear of Oscar Wegner?

arche3 01-16-2014 12:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cheetah (Post 8023926)
Hmm.. So Ana.., you're 17? And female?
You play with a 1hbh?
How did you hear of Oscar Wegner?

When did she say she knows about oscar?

sureshs 01-16-2014 12:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arche3 (Post 8023948)
When did she say she knows about oscar?

In another thread

sureshs 01-16-2014 12:58 PM

Wonder if this is MMI

arche3 01-16-2014 12:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sureshs (Post 8023951)
In another thread

Oh.... interesting. She probably has been a lurker. And we just discussed oscar stuff recently. Nothing wrong with learning from wegner.

Cheetah 01-16-2014 01:04 PM

You don't see too many 17 year old females here commenting in 1hbh threads and mentioning wegner and talking about hitting zones and faking on returns so it set off a warning bell.

Could be legit though. Time will tell.


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