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Forum: Former Pro Player Talk 01-06-2013, 01:34 AM
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Whats your top 10 of all time right now?
Views: 108,266
Posted By Doug_Hartley_2012
So difficult to pick over a century of...

So difficult to pick over a century of competition. If we narrow it down to 1900 - 2012 and split it evenly pre and post 1956, it will suggest two top 5s something like this.1900-1956 ......Tilden,...
Forum: Former Pro Player Talk 01-06-2013, 01:13 AM
Replies: 1
great US juniors that never made it
Views: 411
Posted By Doug_Hartley_2012
Well, I'm glad that Americans are puzzling over...

Well, I'm glad that Americans are puzzling over the same issue as Australians, given that we have produced a raft of teenage champions who never made it as adults. Injuries were a part of the...
Forum: Former Pro Player Talk 01-06-2013, 12:49 AM
Replies: 25
Normalizing Björn Borg's slam count
Views: 1,742
Posted By Doug_Hartley_2012
The Grand Slam has always 'mattered'. It's just...

The Grand Slam has always 'mattered'. It's just some fans and a few players who disdain the concept. For many years, for example, clay courters refused to contest Wimbledon because they didn't think...
Forum: Former Pro Player Talk 01-06-2013, 12:41 AM
Replies: 23
Mucles. New book on Rosewall
Views: 1,192
Posted By Doug_Hartley_2012
I have read the latest Rosewall bio,Muscles. It's...

I have read the latest Rosewall bio,Muscles. It's quite interesting and just the kind of book Rosewall wanted. Modest but with a lot of flavour of the times. However I also read Peter Rowley's book...
Forum: Former Pro Player Talk 01-05-2013, 11:37 PM
Replies: 25
Normalizing Björn Borg's slam count
Views: 1,742
Posted By Doug_Hartley_2012
Borg was the king of Europe. He wasn't so...

Borg was the king of Europe. He wasn't so awesome elsewhere. He got dumped early in Australia by an Australian at the 1974 Open, like a lot of others before and after him. Nobody prevented him from...
Forum: Former Pro Player Talk 01-05-2013, 11:31 PM
Replies: 340
Rosewall > Laver
Views: 12,607
Posted By Doug_Hartley_2012
ROSEWALL...better than LAVER. Based on certain...

ROSEWALL...better than LAVER. Based on certain assumptions. Direct head to head; major tournaments won; opponents defeated; rankings; rankings by age from juniors to seniors; longevity; excellence....
Forum: Former Pro Player Talk 04-12-2012, 02:41 AM
Replies: 43
Winners of the Major Tennis Tournaments
Views: 3,174
Posted By Doug_Hartley_2012
It's no accident that Rosewall and Laver lead the...

It's no accident that Rosewall and Laver lead the title count. Even allowing for the mix of amateur, pro and open 'Majors, these two guys - more than any other pairing - transcended the challenges...
Forum: Former Pro Player Talk 04-12-2012, 02:02 AM
Replies: 14
Locations of the Australian before 1972
Views: 851
Posted By Doug_Hartley_2012
Just to be clear, Milton was in Brisbane. All...

Just to be clear, Milton was in Brisbane. All venues for the Australian championships can be found in Joseph Johnson's definitive history 'Grand Slam Australia - the story of the Australian Open...
Forum: Former Pro Player Talk 04-12-2012, 01:44 AM
Replies: 313
Poll: Who is the most important male player ever.
Views: 11,256
Posted By Doug_Hartley_2012
Most important player? Well, it would have to be...

Most important player? Well, it would have to be someone who promoted the game strenuously either by their conduct and excellence on court or by their lobbying or organisational skills. Jack Kramer...
Forum: Former Pro Player Talk 04-12-2012, 01:06 AM
Replies: 362
Is Jimmy Connors actually underrated?
Views: 17,532
Posted By Doug_Hartley_2012
Been away a few weeks and amazed at some of the...

Been away a few weeks and amazed at some of the posts. Orantes? Talented but not one of the big boys. Don't think he could mix it with Newk, Laver, Rosewall or Smith pre 1975. I think kiki may have...
Forum: Former Pro Player Talk 03-24-2012, 06:11 AM
Replies: 38
The Australians
Views: 2,025
Posted By Doug_Hartley_2012
And if we try to list the top 10 Aussies ever, I...

And if we try to list the top 10 Aussies ever, I suggest the list must be based around those that ranked 1 or 2 in any season. And to be careful about amateur seasons during the pro era.

My...
Forum: Former Pro Player Talk 03-24-2012, 05:56 AM
Replies: 68
Sedgman - underrated giant of the fifties
Views: 4,301
Posted By Doug_Hartley_2012
Sedgman turning pro was close to a national...

Sedgman turning pro was close to a national disaster in Australia. Luckily we had these two kids called Lew and Ken who stepped up and the rest is history. Had open tennis come along ten years...
Forum: Former Pro Player Talk 03-24-2012, 05:52 AM
Replies: 68
Sedgman - underrated giant of the fifties
Views: 4,301
Posted By Doug_Hartley_2012
Sedg was a legend. He was the guy to beat in the...

Sedg was a legend. He was the guy to beat in the amateur game 1949-1952 and he reached the top in the pro game as well. I believe he remained Australia-based and his ability to compete was hindered...
Forum: Former Pro Player Talk 03-24-2012, 05:30 AM
Replies: 38
The Australians
Views: 2,025
Posted By Doug_Hartley_2012
Did Santana actually claim the Spaniards broke...

Did Santana actually claim the Spaniards broke Australian dominance? Oh come on. Old age and a national tennis association wedded to shamateurism was our problem. And it hasn't stopped us producing...
Forum: Former Pro Player Talk 03-24-2012, 05:21 AM
Replies: 795
15 greatest players of all time
Views: 51,124
Posted By Doug_Hartley_2012
ButSandy, that rankings list is NOT based on...

ButSandy, that rankings list is NOT based on career results. It is just your personal preference at the time and as you say, you could change it around easily. A true list should have clear...
Forum: Former Pro Player Talk 03-24-2012, 02:50 AM
Replies: 47
Was Australian Open designated as being a major in late 70s an early 80s??
Views: 3,755
Posted By Doug_Hartley_2012
kiki, Ithink the comment made at the time was...

kiki, Ithink the comment made at the time was that he played like Rosewall. Not that he was gonna win everything forever and retire at 43 ;) but that his strokeplay reminded some observers of the...
Forum: Former Pro Player Talk 03-24-2012, 02:36 AM
Replies: 38
The Australians
Views: 2,025
Posted By Doug_Hartley_2012
kiki, and Ashe would never have faced Rosewall at...

kiki, and Ashe would never have faced Rosewall at his awesome peak. The Doomsday Stroking Machine was nearly 34when Ashe first faced him. So Arthur wouldn't really be in a position to make that...
Forum: Former Pro Player Talk 03-24-2012, 02:31 AM
Replies: 31
Best Ever Season Without Winning a Major
Views: 1,629
Posted By Doug_Hartley_2012
Connors in 1975 was clearly the biggest...

Connors in 1975 was clearly the biggest surprisesince Laver in 1970. Who would have bet against them? Somebody could have won a lot of money betting either would not win a Major in those two years....
Forum: Former Pro Player Talk 03-24-2012, 02:26 AM
Replies: 268
Greatest mens tennis player of all time
Views: 10,828
Posted By Doug_Hartley_2012
But it seems there are guys who excel early -...

But it seems there are guys who excel early - like Hoad, Rosewall, Becker, Hewitt, Borg,Wilander - and then there are others whose game develops more slowly. Australians want to believe Tomic is the...
Forum: Former Pro Player Talk 03-24-2012, 12:47 AM
Replies: 31
Best Ever Season Without Winning a Major
Views: 1,629
Posted By Doug_Hartley_2012
OK, I got a bit carried away with Rochey in '69...

OK, I got a bit carried away with Rochey in '69 and while quickly going through the annual results I cited his '68 Wimbledon final instead of his '69 semi. My apologies. But it was still a great...
Forum: Former Pro Player Talk 03-23-2012, 01:25 AM
Replies: 34
Connors didn't duck people
Views: 2,140
Posted By Doug_Hartley_2012
Funnily enough, Phil Dent was allegedly a...

Funnily enough, Phil Dent was allegedly a hypochondriac....forever believing there was something wrong with him. If only he had believed in himself a bit more and had his son's serve - Taylor Dent -...
Forum: Former Pro Player Talk 03-23-2012, 01:13 AM
Replies: 31
Best Ever Season Without Winning a Major
Views: 1,629
Posted By Doug_Hartley_2012
Best Ever Season Without Winning a Major

Talking about who was really number 1 in 1970 got me thinking about players who had superb seasons WITHOUT actually nailing a Major. Laver in 1970 for example. Playing great everywhere EXCEPT the...
Forum: Former Pro Player Talk 03-22-2012, 01:02 AM
Replies: 38
The Australians
Views: 2,025
Posted By Doug_Hartley_2012
I left John Marks out because he had basically...

I left John Marks out because he had basically one freaakish result at the AO and I actually forgot about Stoltenberg aand Fromberg when I was concocting the list. Probably they deserve inclusion at...
Forum: Former Pro Player Talk 03-22-2012, 12:52 AM
Replies: 55
15 Greatest Achievements in Tennis History as of 1981
Views: 4,177
Posted By Doug_Hartley_2012
Jean Borotra and Henri Cochet

French tennis legend. Born 13 August 1898. Won the British Covered Court Championships at Queen's Club in 1926 [aged around 28]; 1928 [30]; 1929 [31]; 1930 [32]; 1931 [33];1932 [34]; 1933 [35];...
Forum: Former Pro Player Talk 03-21-2012, 12:55 AM
Replies: 55
15 Greatest Achievements in Tennis History as of 1981
Views: 4,177
Posted By Doug_Hartley_2012
How about listing the greatest achievements by...

How about listing the greatest achievements by players aged 40 or more? Quite a few champions have played wonderful cameos late in their sporting lives. And you can go way back to early greats like...
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