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Old 10-28-2008, 07:00 AM   #16
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I've put together a list of matches in which the ATP figures for Total Points Won are supported by at least one source.

By support I don't always mean exact alignment. For some of these matches there are still minor discrepancies between the ATP and other sources, and I've described those below as well as I can pick them out.

But in all these cases it appears, at least, that the ATP has not counted aces and double-faults twice.

The list runs through 2003.


- For Courier-Agassi, 1991 RG final, the Associated Press reports that Courier won 145 points, the same number as the ATP.

- For Stich-Edberg, 1991 W semifinal, the Sun Herald (Sydney) confirms that Stich trailed 143-149 in Total Points Won.

- For Connors-Krickstein, 1991 USO, R16, I completed a CBS stat late in the fifth set for total points played. I ended within one point of the ATP figure of 374.

- For Sampras-Becker, 1996 TMC final, the New York Times and the ATP both have Sampras trailing by 166-178 in Total Points Won.

- For Federer-Sampras, 2001 W, R16, the BBC’s service percentages support the ATP’s.

- For Safin-Hewitt, 2002 Paris final, I completed a late-match stat by ATP Masters Series TV and got 192 points played in total, with Safin leading 108-84, in agreement with the ATP.


I also have some boxscores.

Stich-Becker, 1991 Wimbledon final
6-4, 7-6 (4), 6-4
From the St. Petersburg Times (Florida) and The Gazette (Montreal):
Stich vs. Becker
Aces 15 10
Service winners 51 40
Double faults 3 4
First serve pct. 46 58
Return winners 26 20
Total points won 111 103
Break points won 4-16 2-3
No disagreements with the ATP.


Agassi-Medvedev, 1999 French Open final
1-6, 2-6, 6-4, 6-3, 6-4
From the Globe and Mail:
Agassi Medvedev
Total points won 144 152
Aces 2 23
Winners incl. srv 46 65
Double faults 6 8
1st serve pct 62 63
Pct. 1st serve pts 69 74
Pct. 2nd serve pts 46 41
Break pt. conv 4-13 5-12
Unforced errors 56 65
Net points 22-33 17-30
Time of match 2:51
The ATP actually has Agassi at 145 points won. The other stats line up, though.


Agassi-Martin, 1999 U.S. Open final
6-4, 6-7 (5), 6-7 (2), 6-3, 6-2
From the Miami Herald:
Source: Herald Sports Staff
Agassi Category Martin
64 1st serve percentage 60
7 Aces 23
4 Double faults 8
75 Percent 1st serve points won 71
66 Percent 2nd serve points won 59
39 Winners (inc. service) 74
23 Unforced errors 60
5-10 Break points won 0-8
16-19 Net points won 62-97
165 Total points won 147
* Time of match: 3 hours 23 minutes.
The Sydney Morning Herald had the same unforced errors but it had Agassi trailing in winners by 45-77; other than that there are no discrepancies between these two sources or between either one and the ATP.


Agassi-Sampras, 2000 Australian Open semifinal
Boxscore from CNN.si and The Age (Melbourne):
Following are key statistics from Andre Agassi's
6-4, 3-6, 6-7 (0-7), 7-6 (7-5), 6-1 semifinal win
over Pete Sampras (Reuters)
Agassi Sampras
1st serve (percentage) 68 63
Aces 13 37
Double faults 3 5
Winning % 1st serve 74 81
Winning % 2nd serve 68 49
Winners 52 86
Unforced errors 19 56
Break points converted 3 of 13 , 1 of 9
Net approaches won 19 of 26 , 71 of 122
Total points won 155 149
Source: Reuters
The figures are the same as the ATP’s.


Agassi-Kafelnikov, 2000 Australian Open final
From CNN.SI:
Following are key stats from Andre Agassi's
3-6, 6-3, 6-2, 6-4 win over Yevgeny Kafelnikov.
Agassi Kafelnikov
1st serve (percentage) 66 53
Aces 9 14
Double faults 5 9
Winning % 1st serve 68 65
Winning % 2nd serve 59 53
Winners 38 53
Unforced errors 35 61
Break points converted 6 of 17 3 of 7
Net approaches won 9 of 12 32 of 52
Total points won 125 113 Source: Reuters
The ATP stats agree with these.


Sampras-Rafter, 2000 Wimbledon final
From the Washington Post:
The box score of No. 1 Pete Sampras's
6-7 (12-10), 7-6 (7-5), 6-4, 6-2 victory
over No. 12 Patrick Rafter for the men's singles
championship at Wimbledon:
Sampras Rafter
First Serve Pct. 62 57
Aces 27 12
Double Faults 12 8
Unforced Errors 79 55
First Serve Winning Pct. 89 75
Second Serve Winning Pct. 56 50
Winners (Inc. Service) 40 29 [these do not include service]
Break Points 3-14 0-2
Net Approaches 28-49 39-93
Total Points 160 138
Time of Match: 2:52
The ATP has Sampras at 24 aces, and Rafter at 10 aces and 7 doubles. They have Sampras winning 161 points. And they disagree on first-serve percentages and success on first and second serve (but always disagreeing by two percentage points or less).



Safin-Sampras, 2000 U.S. Open final
Xinhua General News Service:
Following are key statistics from Sunday's men's final at the U.S. Open in which sixth-seeded Russian Marat Safin beat fourth-seeded American Pete Sampras 6-4, 6-3, 6-3
SAMPRAS SAFIN
Age 29 20
Seeding 4 6
First serve points won 38 of 50 34 of 40
Second serve points won 12 of 29 26 of 42
Aces 8 12
Double faults 4 2
Winners (including service) 32 37
Unforced Errors 25 12
Break point conversions 0-of-2 4-of-9
Net approaches won 43-of-82 5-of-12
Total points won 72 89
Time of match: 1:38
This lines up with the ATP in all categories.



Ivanisevic-Rafter, 2001 Wimbledon final
6-3, 3-6, 6-3, 2-6, 9-7
This boxscore is from USA Today:
Ivanisevic Rafter
First-serve % 55 63
Aces 27 13
Double faults 16 4
Unforced errors 30 11
First serve winning % 81 77
Second serve winning % 51 56
Winners (including service) 42 49
Break points 3-6 3-6
Net points 38-70 49-70
Total points won 154 150
Time of match: 3:01
The ATP has Ivanisevic making 1 less double-fault and winning 1 more point overall.


Sampras-Agassi, 2001 U.S. Open QF
The Advertiser:
PETE SAMPRAS d ANDRE AGASSI
6-7 (7-9), 7-6 (7-2), 7-6 (7-2), 7-6 (7-5)
Match time: 3 hrs, 33 min.
Sampras Agassi
62 First serve pc 65
25 Aces 18
12 Double faults 4
10 Forehand winners 20
12 Backhand winners 13
40 Unforced errors 19
0 of 6 Break point conversions 0 of 3
96 of 137 Pts won at net 12 of 21
176 Total points won 162
This lines up with the ATP in all categories.


Hewitt-Sampras, 2001 U.S. Open final,
7-6 (4), 6-1, 6-1
New York Daily News:
HEWITT SAMPRAS
1st Serve percentage 64 60
Aces 7 11
Double Faults 5 6
Unforced Errors 13 38
1st Serve Winning Pct. 84 63
2nd Serve Winning Pct. 50 43
Winners (inc. service) 36 35
Break Points 6-13 1-2
Net Points 8-8 49-98
Total Points Won 100 76
Time of Match 1:54
These figures match the ATP’s exactly, except that the ATP rounded all its figures down.


Sampras-Agassi, 2002 U.S. Open final
6-3, 6-4, 5-7, 6-4
The New York Daily News:
GRAPHIC: FINAL BREAKDOWN
1st Serve percentage 66 57
Aces 7 33
Double Faults 4 13
Unforced Errors 21 46
1st Serve Winning Pct. 67 80
2nd Serve Winning Pct. 53 52
Winners (inc. service) 27 84
Break Points 2-12 4-8
Net Points 10-13 60-105
Total Points Won 126 151
Time of Match 2:54
This lines up with the ATP in all categories.



Agassi-Schuettler, 2003 Australian Open final
USAToday.com:
Agassi-Schuettler box score
Andre Agassi (2) def. Rainer Schuettler (31), 6-2, 6-2, 6-1
Schuettler Agassi
1st Serve percentage 51 67
Aces 4 7
Double Faults 4 1
Unforced Errors 25 13
1st Serve Winning Pct. 58 74
2nd Serve Winning Pct. 28 74
Winners (including service) 16 30
Break Points 1-1 8-13
Net Points 12-16 11-14
Total Points Won 43 80
Time of Match 1:16
The ATP stats are no different.


I haven't listed any more recent matches because I often see the ATP stats corresponding to stats on tournament websites.

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