yes the rd ti-70 and fischer vac pro were great and ps 85 level as well. I tried to play both this year but they lacked the cadillac cruise control that I get with the ultra 2's or prostaffs, the ability to change directions on a ball from the baseline...no one ever talks of the puma winner, can anything else really compare??? 200g's are also awesome but I had to try several until I found one I liked...they improve timing and form
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