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Old 04-27-2009, 03:19 AM   #13
Carlo Giovanni Colussi
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Originally Posted by oscar_2424 View Post
that was mean
all we are saying is give peace a chance
Usually I post tennis quotes in that forum but for once I will talk about something else just because you've written "all we are saying is give peace a chance".
According to John Robertson who wrote the book "The art & music of John Lennon",
"Give peace a chance" wasn't such an off-the-cuff performance at Montréal (Canada) in late May and June 1, 1969, because when John returned to Great Britain
he would have asked Ringo Starr to lay out a new rhythm over the spontaneous and rather amateur backing track provided by the colored and joyful assistance in the hotel room 1742 including Thimothy Leary (whom you can see in the official video) that John "immortalized" in his song lyrics (with Dylan and others),
and John also re-recorded some little parts of his original vocals.
Once in an interview he stated that he didn't remember if it was he or Yoko or both who found the song title.
One last remark : because Lennon was still a Beatle (the group had not yet recorded his "Abbey Road" album with the main sessions between July 1 and August 20, but the first session took place on February 22 for the first recording of Lennon's "I want you (she's so heavy)) he copyrighted the song officially Lennon-McCartney though "Give peace a chance" is not a song belonging to the Beatles catalogue (but to John's as a solo artist) as the duo had ever done since 1962 (when the group published his first single "Love me do") :
whenever a member of that duo created some lyrics or a melody line even though the other one had created nothing, both names were officially credited as song's creators.
When Lennon created "Give peace a chance" in Montréal, McCartney was in Great-Britain and so Paul hadn't helped John at all for this song (in those times except on the phone you couldn't communicate, as we are doing now almost all the time via the Web or the cell phone, with someone else).
Decades later (I'm not sure but probably around the mid-90's, Yoko Ono changed the copyright of "Give peace a chance" and erased McCartney to leave Lennon alone).
Before 1962 you can find songs (not published at the time) copyrighted with only one songwriter of the duo : for instance "I Lost My Little Girl", McCartney's first creation in 1957, is copyrighted McCartney (so no Lennon officially and in reality) or "Cry for a shadow" is copyrighted Harrison/Lennon (with no McCartney).
But from 1962 to 1970 whenever one of the duo created some stuff automatically the name of the other was associated whatever he'd done.
Even in 1970 though Lennon had definitely quit the group on September 20, 1969 but agreed not to make an announcement while manager Allen Klein and the band renegotiated their recording contract ("Abbey Road" was released on 26 September 1969 in the United Kingdom, and 1 October 1969 in the United States),
Lennon's name was copyrighted with McCartney's.

Among songs officially credited Lennon-McCartney you have some where either one or the other had not add any input :
for instance Lennon put absolutely nothing in McCartney's "Yesterday" but his name is credited (it's a 95% song by Paul and about 5% by George Martin who helped Paul's for the string arrangement)
and the same can be said about Lennon's "Julia" (with some little input by Martin), apparently Paul hasn't given any idea in that love song to Lennon's mother but the song is officially credited Lennon/McCartney.

Hope I haven't annoyed you too much with this non-tennis topic.

I get back to tennis : I won't be shocked by a blue clay (but I don't like Tiriac who had been a true crook when he faced the USA in the Davis Cup final 1972).

Last edited by Carlo Giovanni Colussi; 09-30-2009 at 11:03 PM.
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