^^^ I Never start with extreme grips, grips will usually (naturally) slide around as required.
I always start forehands off on bevel 3 or 3/4, knowing it will slip around towards 4 as the player develops and moves through orange, green and finally to yellow ball.
I'm interested to see if the same happens with a single hander.
Don't be upset by the results you didn't get from the work you didn't do...
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