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Old 07-12-2011, 05:15 PM   #18
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I hate these egghead discussions and 'lab data' threads because what goes on in the 'lab' isn't what goes on on the tennis court, and the biggest variable (the player) isn't part of the equation, and neither is the amount of confidence and feel which your equipment gives you.
Well, that's the point of this thread/poll: to get some data about the player side of the equation. It won't be much data - unless thousands participate in the poll - but it's something.

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But I'm going to chip in anyway because I've spent the last few months tweaking and experimenting with the balance and weighting of four BLX 6.1 Teams, in the range of the specs in the original post. The aim was to try and achieve the feel of my BLX 6.1 95s but improve the manouverability and whippiness. Obviously, I could have tried to find a Japenese spec BLX 6.1 95 (which has specs almost bang in the middle of those two racquets) but hey.....

In short, Racquet B will definitely swing faster at the point of contact and allow you to hit a bigger, heavier, ball. Don't ask me to explain the science of it, but its definitely what happens on a tennis court. I'd guess probably because its head heavier, and results in a higher head speed and greater mass at the point of contact. The downside is that - all other factors being equal - the racquet will result in greater inconsistency than Racquet A. 1HL is grim.
B will not have greater mass at the point of contact because adding or removing mass from the handle does not add or remove mass from the head. But it may swing faster, and in your opinion it will.

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Racquet A will offer you more control because you'll have more control over the speed of the racquet head and will be lower powered. It will be more your swing/racquet speed and length of your stroke that contributes to the control on the ball, rather than the moving mass of the head on contact with the ball. That said, the higher the level of technique, the less significant this probably becomes because with high level technique, the player's swing will be close to perfect more of the time.

I hit heavier forehands and serve bigger with with specs similar to Racquet B, but it doesn't suit my topspin 1HB as well. You really need high level technique to control the greater weight of that head with a 1HB, which people are obviously more likely to have on their FH than their 1BH. A racquet with 1HL is also going to feel like a pendulum, is less manouverable and is likely to result in more inconsistency.
Thanks for your detailed observations.

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Also, I don't think its possible to have the two alternate specs as suggested in the original thread, not with the same racquet anyway. If you a have a 320g SW, 7HL racquet, its highly doubtful that stripping mass from the handle to bring it to 1HL will result in the SW remaining at 320. In any event, both racquets will feel wildly different which is the most significant point to bear in mind.
It's certainly possible. Adding mass mid-handle has almost no effect on swingweight. So if I had racquet B and added 30 grams 4" from the butt I would essentially have racquet A.

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Another point that this 'lab data' thread doesn't take into account is that its not just about specs. Where in the racquet the mass is distributed has a big effect on how the racquet feels, how it plays, and how much confidence it gives you. You could have two racquet with identical SW/static/BP specs but different mass distributions and they will feel very different.
Yes. But here we are primarily talking about handleweight: plus or minus an ounce in the handle. Lots of manufacturers make models that are representative of Racquets A & B. Head Prestige vs. Radical, for example. Maybe this thread will help people choose which model might suit them.

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Tennis based on lab stats. I don't think there's anything I loathe more.
I'm glad you got an opportunity to get that off your chest. Although I don't see anyone "basing" anything on lab stats. The point of the thread is to compare the subjective experiences of players with the very limited lab data available.
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