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Old 10-26-2011, 10:51 AM   #390
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Originally Posted by kikiviva View Post
Yes, i know water loss is common on low carb. You suppose to weigh with water. That's the FINAL answer for correct weight loss.

you know that atkins diets only let you get 20 grams a day. then added 5 grams.

No bread or pasta, fruits, vegetables, or juice.

Of course you will lose weight if you restrict an entire nutrition group.

You are dramatically decreasing the amount of calories you're putting into your body.

But fruits and vegetables also enhance feeling of fullness because of their naturally high water and fiber content and provide your body with healthy fiber, folate, and other heart protecting, brain-boosting, libido-lifting, mood-enchancing, essential vitamins and nutrients. You are cutting those out. Plus you are making your body crave. Restricting foods will only make you crave them more and more. end up binging instead later.

also, im wondering when did you get your medical exam.

I know Low carb actually decrease cardiovascular disease risk.

but what about

Colon cancer, heart disease, impaired kidney function, complications of diabetes, osteoporosis, and other effects.

Constipation 68%
Headache 60%
Bad breath 38%
Muscle cramps 35%
Diarrhea 23%
General weakness 25%

and you know what?

My host mom was on low-carb diet (she was strong and well controlled her diet) she lost 100 lbs i think..

but in 3-6 months she gained 50lbs easily.

she did not eat like monster after diet.

she was controlling her kilo-calories intake, still she was gaining weight..

And i have seen what she's eating... I pity her..

all effort she put on, soon or later would be gone.

you might be playing better, because of poor eating habit in the past.

But you won't last long in the match.

also i respect you in every way, you lived longer than me you might know more than me. I did not want to be rude. I just have seen people thought they were succeeded in diet. but later on it came back. I feel really bad about them. But this is what i have seen and hear from books / internet / article / nutrition specialist.
God you are ignorant. So much so that it hardly seems worth debating the issue with you but I'm going to try.

Again, you are either ignorant or misinformed about the Atkins diet. I don't do Atkins but I know enough about it to know you have some big misconceptions about it. First even in its MOST restrictive phase in terms of CHO intake called Induction, you are supposed to eat 20 NET grams (add back fiber) and you are not prohibited from eating fruits and vegetables. In fact the diet recommends that all your carbs come from these sources during Induction. Do you have any idea that 20 net grams of CHO from broccoli is about 5 cups which is one hell of lot more than most people who aren't doing Atkins eat in a day. Induction only lasts two weeks anyway, then you can add back more carbs if you feel like it.

You are not dramatically decreasing the amount of calories you put in your body - again you are completely ignorant or misinformed.

Your body has zero "need" for carbs the way it needs protein or fat. Specifically there are no deficiency diseases associated with low levels of CHO, however, there are deficiency diseases associated with both low levels of protein for the essential amino acids, and for fats. That should tell you something, eh?

I had a medical exam in July after starting the diet in March.

None of those things you listed (nice strawman by the way) have been shown to be associated with low carb dieting. Please cite peer-reviewed studies and not just some web site with an anonymous author to back up your claims or they are just so much more hot air from you.

Seriously, you have no idea about me and to make claims about me and how I play based on nothing more than your misguided and incorrect assumptions is just more arrogant ignorant crap from you.

Your host mom like most people who gain the weight back did so after STOPPING her low carb diet. How can you blame the diet for her gaining the weight back? If she'd stayed on it, she'd still be 100 pounds lighter.

I really think now that I'm debating with a teenager. Is that correct? No offense to teenagers because I have two of my own who are pretty smart but how about doing some actual research on a topic before showing your ignorance about it in front of thousands of people on the internet?
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