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Old 05-11-2012, 12:13 PM   #763
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But that is my point exactly. There needs to be a way of counting majors than 'grand slam tournaments only'
Nobody is ever going to agree on that.

My personal way of doing things is to count the tournaments below as majors, and use other big events like WCT Dallas, Masters, Grand Slam Cup, Philadelphia etc. as big events that boost players records without counting as majors. But that's my way of bringing the best sense of order in my philosophy on tennis majors. Other people will have different opinions and different criteria.

Majors
Open majors
Australian Open (1969-January 1977, December 1977-1985, 1987-Present Day)
French Open (1968-Present Day)
Wimbledon (1968-Present Day)
US Open (1968-Present Day)

Pro majors
French Pro (1930-1939, 1956, 1958-1967)
Wembley Pro (1934-1939, 1949-1953, 1956-1967)
US Pro (1927-1943, 1945-1967)
Tournament of Champions (1956-1959)
Wimbledon Pro (1967)

Amateur majors
Australasian/Australian Championships (1924-1940, 1946-1968 )
French Championships (1925-1939, 1946-1967)
Wimbledon (1877-1914, 1919-1939, 1946-1967)
US Championships (1882-1967)
World Hard Court Championships (1912-1914, 1920-1923)
World Covered Court Championships (1913, 1919-1923)


One thing I also have to say is that there were nothing as big as open era majors before 1968, but this cannot be blamed on the players of pre-1968.

List of majors won
Ken Rosewall: 23 (4 amateur, 15 pro, 4 open)

Rod Laver: 20 (6 amateur, 9 pro, 5 open)

Pancho Gonzales: 17 (2 amateur, 15 pro)

Roger Federer: 16

Bill Tilden: 15 (11 amateur, 4 pro)

Pete Sampras: 14

Roy Emerson: 12 (12 amateur)

Bjorn Borg: 11
Henri Cochet: 11 (10 amateur, 1 pro)

Rafael Nadal: 10
Don Budge: 10 (6 amateur, 4 pro)
Fred Perry: 10 (8 amateur, 2 pro)

Andre Agassi: 8
Jimmy Connors: 8
Ivan Lendl: 8
Ellsworth Vines: 8 (3 amateur, 5 pro)

Mats Wilander: 7
John McEnroe: 7
John Newcombe: 7 (2 amateur, 5 open)
Tony Trabert: 7 (5 amateur, 2 pro)
Frank Sedgman: 7 (5 amateur, 2 pro)
Rene Lacoste: 7 (7 amateur)
Anthony Wilding: 7 (7 amateur)
William Larned: 7 (7 amateur)
William Renshaw: 7 (7 amateur)

Boris Becker: 6
Stefan Edberg: 6
Bobby Riggs: 6 (3 amateur, 3 pro)
Jack Crawford: 6 (6 amateur)
Laurie Doherty: 6 (6 amateur)
Richard Sears: 6 (6 amateur)

Novak Djokovic: 5
Hans Nusslein: 5 (5 pro)
Jack Kramer: 5 (3 amateur, 2 pro)
Lew Hoad: 5 (4 amateur, 1 pro)

Jim Courier: 4
Guillermo Vilas: 4
Karel Kozeluh: 4 (4 pro)
Vinny Richards: 4 (4 pro)
Manuel Santana: 4 (4 amateur)
Ashley Cooper: 4 (4 amateur)
Frank Parker: 4 (4 amateur)
Jean Borotra: 4 (4 amateur)
Bill Johnston: 4 (4 amateur)
Reggie Doherty: 4 (4 amateur)
Robert Wrenn: 4 (4 amateur)

Gustavo Kuerten: 3
Arthur Ashe: 3
Jan Kodes: 3
Pancho Segura: 3 (3 pro)
Alex Olmedo: 3 (2 amateur, 1 pro)
Neale Fraser: 3 (3 amateur)
Jaroslav Drobny: 3 (3 amateur)
Adrian Quist: 3 (3 amateur)
Gerald Patterson: 3 (3 amateur)
Arthur Gore: 3 (3 amateur)
Malcolm Whitman: 3 (3 amateur)
Wilfred Baddeley: 3 (3 amateur)
Oliver Campbell: 3 (3 amateur)

Marat Safin: 2
Lleyton Hewitt: 2
Yevgeny Kafelnikov: 2
Patrick Rafter: 2
Sergi Bruguera: 2
Johan Kriek: 2
Ilie Nastase: 2
Stan Smith: 2
Mal Anderson: 2 (1 amateur, 1 pro)
Fred Stolle: 2 (2 amateur)
Nicola Pietrangeli: 2 (2 amateur)
Mervyn Rose: 2 (2 amateur)
Vic Seixas: 2 (2 amateur)
Dick Savitt: 2 (2 amateur)
Budge Patty: 2 (2 amateur)
Ted Schroeder: 2 (2 amateur)
John Bromwich: 2 (2 amateur)
Don McNeill: 2 (2 amateur)
Gottfried von Cramm: 2 (2 amateur)
James Anderson: 2 (2 amateur)
William Laurentz: 2 (2 amateur)
Lindley Murray: 2 (2 amateur)
Richard Norris Williams: 2 (2 amateur)
Norman Brookes: 2 (2 amateur)
Maurice McLoughlin: 2 (2 amateur)
Joshua Pim: 2 (2 amateur)
Henry Slocum: 2 (2 amateur)
John Hartley: 2 (2 amateur)

Juan Martin del Potro: 1
Gaston Gaudio: 1
Andy Roddick: 1
Juan Carlos Ferrero: 1
Albert Costa: 1
Thomas Johansson: 1
Goran Ivanisevic: 1
Carlos Moya: 1
Petr Korda: 1
Richard Krajicek: 1
Thomas Muster: 1
Michael Stich: 1
Andres Gomez: 1
Michael Chang: 1
Pat Cash: 1
Yannick Noah: 1
Brian Teacher: 1
Vitas Gerulaitis: 1
Roscoe Tanner: 1
Adriano Panatta: 1
Mark Edmondson: 1
Manuel Orantes: 1
Andres Gimeno: 1
Butch Buchholz: 1 (1 pro)
Welby Van Horn: 1 (1 pro)
Bruce Barnes: 1 (1 pro)
Joe Whalen: 1 (1 pro)
Robert Ramillon: 1 (1 pro)
Martin Plaa: 1 (1 pro)
William Bowrey: 1 (1 amateur)
Tony Roche: 1 (1 amateur)
Rafael Osuna: 1 (1 amateur)
Chuck McKinley: 1 (1 amateur)
Sven Davidson: 1 (1 amateur)
Ken McGregor: 1 (1 amateur)
Art Larsen: 1 (1 amateur)
Bob Falkenburg: 1 (1 amateur)
Jozsef Asboth: 1 (1 amateur)
Dinny Pails: 1 (1 amateur)
Yvon Petra: 1 (1 amateur)
Marcel Bernard: 1 (1 amateur)
Joseph Hunt: 1 (1 amateur)
Henner Henkel: 1 (1 amateur)
Vivian McGrath: 1 (1 amateur)
Wilmer Allison: 1 (1 amateur)
Sidney Wood: 1 (1 amateur)
John Doeg: 1 (1 amateur)
Edgar Moon: 1 (1 amateur)
John Colin Gregory: 1 (1 amateur)
John Hawkes: 1 (1 amateur)
Gordon Lowe: 1 (1 amateur)
Andre Gobert: 1 (1 amateur)
Otto Froitzheim: 1 (1 amateur)
William Clothier: 1 (1 amateur)
Beals Wright: 1 (1 amateur)
Holcombe Ward: 1 (1 amateur)
Harold Mahony: 1 (1 amateur)
Frederick Hovey: 1 (1 amateur)
Willoughby Hamilton: 1 (1 amateur)
Ernest Renshaw: 1 (1 amateur)
Herbert Lawford: 1 (1 amateur)
Frank Hadow: 1 (1 amateur)
Spencer Gore: 1 (1 amateur)

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