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Old 08-09-2012, 12:37 PM   #14
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Originally Posted by BHSC View Post
I made no mention that Duke is far behind UVA...Duke and UVA certainly had some competitive matches this year and they should be closer next year...It's very possible Duke may beat UVA next year.
i'm confused by a few things in your post - starting with this [i've edited some of your comments together a bit for brevity, let me know if you think i took anything out of context]:

if Duke isn't far behind UVA, is it really fedace-like bias for someone to suggest that Duke might be the conference favorite? seems to me if two teams are quite close and either could possibly beat the other then different people might have differing rational opinions on which is more likely to pull off a conference

Originally Posted by BHSC View Post
My point was simply about the ACC for next year. If one team has a very long conference winning streak and returns nearly everyone, it's pretty reasonable to say that they remain the Conference favorite going in to the season. At least, until someone else proves they can win the conference

A similar example would be nationally last year. Coming into the 2012 spring, USC returned nearly everyone from a team that had won multiple titles. Certainly other teams could potentially beat the Trojans. However, SC had to be considered the favorite until someone proved differently. Only a very biased observer would have argued otherwise.
i disagree with your premise that a team that has success in a conference or nationally and returns most players automatically is the favorite until proven otherwise...i've seen plenty of years of college basketball where a great team gets surpassed from one year to the next despite retaining most players (whether by recruiting - I have a lot of faith in redlicki and semenzato making both big singles and big dubs impacts next year - or by players getting better - aka tahir looking awesome this summer compared to being an okay bottom of the lineup player last year)

and i can't tell you how many posts i've seen on in recent years predicting a national championship (sure, plenty telling these people to hold their horses on those predictions also) - were all these UVA posters exposing their fedace-level irrationality by not predicting the returning three-time champs to defend their title?

**edit - as a more concrete example - Clark predicted a lopsided victory for UVA over two-time defending champs USC before that title match in 2011 - is he just one of many fedace-like UVA fans? - not my opinion but it follows from your argument - i didn't know your opinion of him was that low...**

whatever, i indicated in my initial post that i had a bias in this game of choosing the ACC favorite for next year, but your argument that UVA is the only rational choice seems to fly in the face of your initial comments i quoted above and thousands of UVA tennis message board posts during the past few years

sorry for not bowing down to the almighty UVA ACC win streak and upsetting you...boland didn't bow down to Duke's streak of championships when he started building UVA into a top tier program - that's not a winner's attitude

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