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Old 09-22-2012, 09:51 PM   #40
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Default Numbers of Nat'l opportunities reduced

Originally Posted by BirdieLane View Post
You are making my point. Don't say it's 580 when, according to your numbers, its 928. A reduction to be sure...but no need to exaggerate to that extent.

Further, new L4s regionals are out-of-section opportunities that should definitely be counted because they will be a great place for the player who is a top sectional player but who is consistently a "2 and out" L1 player. They can go deep in these events. (But note that 25% will still go "2 and out") So hopefully, a strong sectional player can get out of the section and hopefully see a step-up in competition but not fly home having been able to count games won on one hand.

With that, said, here's my count of 14s in 2014:

Feb: 92 L2 + 128 L4
Mar/Apr: 32 L1
May: 16 L1 + 128 L3
128 ClayL1 + 128 L4 (I think they made a mistake and called this L3)
70 IntersL1 + 225 ZonalL3
Aug: 128 HardL1
Oct: 16 L1 + 128 L3 (Plus 4? for grand masters?)
Nov: 92 L2 + 128 L4
Dec: 32 TeamL1 + 32 TeamL2

Maybe I'm off a little or missed something but thats what I get. Adding up and you get: 1900 OUT-OF-SECTION playing opportunities.

Even just counting L1-3 like you did, I get 1035 so we're close, but both clearly a lot higher than 580 claimed in the above numbers....that's my point.

Broken down like this:
L1 (or L1A..whatever that means): 426
L2: 128
L3: 481
L4: 256

As far as USTA reconsidering. I do hope they open the L3/4 regionals up so you can play at any of the sites and could maybe add a L3 or L4 concurrent with Easters...but beyond that, I've always been willing to at least see how this plays out.

I think it gives a player more concrete achievement steps. I.e. first feather is to work hard and get a shot at a L4 or L3. Double your efforts and then you can hold head high that you made a L2. Work triple hard and MAYBE you can make easter bowl cut (assume that will be about #50-60 or so??). And what if you work triple or quadruple hard and DON'T make Easter32 cutoff? Great!! You still had that goal and you worked your hardest for it...or maybe you didn't turn over every stone? try again!

Versus right now, you can be ranked #200+, but you pretty much get to do 'everything' - yet you don't really have what it takes to go deep nationally. So you just fly to clays and hards and even winters and you happily "participate".

But in 2014, guess, what? You might might need a ranking of #150 to get into the L2. And you might need a ranking of #60 to get into Easter. you have some work to do and some concrete goals beyond 'participation'.

I have kids playing at different levels. I'm looking forward to seeing if my weaker kids can make it regionals and if my strongest player works double/triple/quadruple hard to 'make' some of these new levels of play. (Noting that even if the goal of Easters or whatever is not obtained, the truly important thing is the double/triple determination and effort trying to get there)

My observation with kids and sports is that if they are truly passionate and there is a goal that is a little out of reach, they will "turn it on" and push very hard to achieve it...but the kid who is a 'lock' for tryouts (or national selection) will not have the same urgency to improve. (clearly theres a few exceptions, but this is a good generalization that I've seen play out over and over.)
Whatever and However parents/players spin their nat'l opportunities is a personal perogative/perspective, but THE POINT IS THEY NEED TO BE THERE
IN ORDER TO Allow each of us to choose THEIR CHOICE OF WHAT TO DO WITH and EXPERIENCE THE NAt'L Opportunities
Again, restricted regionals are not NAt'l as proposed for 2014.
and is not counted as such. and you are getting the point by thinking hmm.. maybe they should open it up as a nat'l evnt and allow US to make the choice

Thank you to those that took the time to present the facts that
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