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Old 09-29-2012, 08:50 AM   #26
Hi I'm Ray
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Originally Posted by 5263 View Post
You are not alone on this
Most just focus on the Fh and the TS Bh to a lesser extent. I thought my slice
and volley needed no help and was amazed at how much they improved with
modern technique. Volley is just the middle portion of the slice imo.

It is pretty much the same idea though, as it is still about using the hand to
align with the ball, leading with the handle.... from above for the slice...
then near contact, starting to work down and across the shot line, opposed to
classic, which has you attempt to extend thru contact along the target line.
As the hand works across the shot line, centrifugal force and to a greater extent,
the hand position brings the racket face to bear for contact.
The hand dragging the racket is key, as you can't just work across the ball, and you
need the alignment phase of the swing to make the across part work right!

There will often be a side aspect to the underspin and just like with TS has, you
can have a lot or a little spin on the shot depending on your intent.
We do get sideways and often can used closed or neutral for slices as well,
leading with the hitting shoulder on the Bh slice,
and it can help to move thru the slice, using momentum to adjust power for the
shot. When approaching net, I mostly use a modern slice if my approach forces
me to continue strongly thru the shot, but if contact point is higher and I can
pause, I will likely use TS for the approach to net.
Would you have any links to vids illustrating this? Not sure if I am picturing the shot differently.

I just recently started slicing "offensively" as opposed to slicing only on defense. It has been pretty effective for preventing an attack and soliciting a weak return. I'm not sure if I'm hitting it in a classic or modern way, but my main priority is driving the ball and keeping it low with a flat trajectory, I'm still putting aggressive spin on it but maximizing spin hasn't been the main priority, and there is some sidespin. I get the feeling that it is skidding a bit on the bounce.

Before, I tried hitting slices a lot of spin, both underspin and sidespin. The shot was fairly slow, travelled in a arc (up/down) and also with a sidespin arc. However, this shot sat up too much after the bounce, the sidespin didn't bother the better players much, and they could hit a pretty good shot off of it. Which is why I previously stopped slicing from the baseline if I could avoid it.

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