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Old 10-03-2012, 04:20 PM   #18
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Originally Posted by krosero View Post
Thank you PC1. That quote from Fireside looks very familiar and it may be the one I read. Do you know when that was written?

Kramer's comparison between Vines and Gonzalez is interesting, although I don't know how much it's worth since Kramer was still only 18 when Vines retired.
I have seen one particular short video of Vines serve from the back side that looked virtually identical to Gonzales' motion in the video link below. I have tried to find it again on all of the video sharing sites including and, but, have been unsuccessful. Again, in this particular view of Vines' serve, it looked virtually identical to the view of Gonzales' serve from the back side here, and again, where the narrator comments on Gonzales' flexible shoulder, later in the video.

PS: Here is a view of Vines' serve almost head on:

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