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Old 10-04-2012, 09:42 PM   #69
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I don't want to speak out of turn, but I think the point was that it was that while a lot of people might say it, for various reasons, it's a worry if they actually mean it. Nadal fans might claim the WTF is worthless during banteer, but that doesn't mean they actually mean it. If they do mean it, then they are also deluded.

The debate either way is skewed by people who have a vested interest in promoting one tournament as more worthy than another, and a handful Federer and Nadal fans are the most obvious culprits. Personally, I wouldn't trust the opinion of someone who claims WTFs is worth nothing just as I don't trust the opinion of someone who claims the Olympics are worth less than a Masters.
And Fed fans might claim Madrid is worth more than Olumpics but that doesn't mean they actually mean it either, your point being what exactly?

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That said, while serious tennis fans will rate the WTF as something worth achieving, the general public couldn't care less. I was speaking to colleagues about it recently, and while most of them know about the WTFs - it's hard to move on the London tube without seeing the posters, most actually did think it was a big money exhibition event. This included people who enthusiastically follow the action at Wimbledon.
Sure but general public by and large cares way more about Wimbledon compared to any other slam including FO so given that (coupled with the fact that the vast majority of players would also take Wimbledon over other slams) so again are we supposed to conclude Fed's 7 Wimbledons are clearly worth more than Nadal's 7 FOs? I mean the general public, hardcore tennis fans and players themselves care more about Wimbledon than about the FO.

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On the other hand, people who have only a passing interest in sport, never mind tennis, in virtually every country in the world, knows about and values an Olympic Gold medal as something to be impressed by. The tennis community may not have taken it very seriously for a while, but the rest of the sporting world did.
That has much more to do with Olympics as a whole than with tennis as an Olympic sport, in that regard it has little history.

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It's worth remembering that a lot of tennis players are sports fans and love the whole Olympic spirit and vibe and now that tennis is properly re-established as a proper Olympic sport, they love being a part of it. One of the reasons John McEnroe is now so in love with Olympic tennis is that he is now a fully signed up member of the Olympics fan club. He was on British tv a lot talking about all of the different events he attended and not just the tennis. Michael Johnson did the same. It was fascinating to see how legends in one sport really appreciate watching elite sports of any discipline.
And despite all that a tennis legend like Massu managed to win the gold in both singles and doubles.

For the record I definitely consider Olympics to be worth more than any masters title (and enjoyed immensely watching it this year), heck let's say it's worth more than WTF, however it's still nowhere near a slam (in that sense it's vastly overrated by Nadal fans).

Not to mention that Nadal fans are not the ones that should complain given their tendency to disparage a 1500 points worth event (highly valued by guys like Lendl, Sampras, Becker, Fed etc.) to an even higher degree than Fed fans do for the Olympics, forget about comparing it to a masters title, they consider 250 events and challengers to be more important.
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