Originally Posted by RF20Lennon
You do realize he's 31 years old now right. And as I said before GOAT does not mean you own everyone it means your more successful than everyone and fed has the best resume. So even if he cant win 17 with todays competition it doesnt matter cause he has 17 no matter what. And Nadal never met him in the hardcourt slams when federer was in HIS prime. Imagine if nadal met fed in 2007 final on rebound ace. He wouldve gotten beaten SO BADLY!!! but no it never happened. So basically he beats someone who is 5 years older to him on plexicushion on a surface that suits him more so federer cannot be GOAT
That's what goat may mean to you and I respect it.
However that's not at all what it means to me and I ask you to respect that as well.
To me the greatest player that ever lived means that no one else could beat them. It's really simple.
Yes Federer is 31 today and its incredible . The man has not lost a step. He is as great as he ever was . In fact he says he is playing the best tennis of his life.
Furthermore , Federer at 31 is I'm far better shape than Nadal is at 26.
Nadal has in my opinion done far more in reality than Federer. Nadal has won more with less opportunies. He has won 11 slams but skipped I think 6 plus the Olympics.
By coincidence the number of slams Federer has is also 6 more than Nadal but at 31 he has never missed a slam an has had way more opportunities . Fed has even had more opportunities at the Olympics but never could win .
Add to that Nadal has beaten Fed in slams on grass and hard while Federer has not even come close to touching Nadal at the FO.
Yeah Fed has his 17 on paper but that's all he has over Nadal.....nothing else. Feds 17 slams mainly happened becaise he avoided Nadal.
This is the first time in history that the number one is dominated by his main rival......so you really can't use generalities like most slams becaise this situation is an exception to the general rule.
And it's a pretty glaring exception. Federer has been very fortunate in his career to avoid Nadal......very fortunate indeed.