Thread: Clay Court GOAT
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Old 10-07-2012, 06:48 AM   #1050
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Originally Posted by abmk View Post
in 2009, djoker lost to kohlscreiber
in 2010 , he lost to melzer

pretty sure even a 17 year old Wilander was wayyy better than both ...

panatta may not be a "great" CC player, but as you said he was a tough matchup for borg, which such player is for nadal ? not 2008 RG djoker, not 2012 RG djoker ..... 2011 djoker would be , but federer took him out .....
Roland Garros 1982 is one of Vilas's 3 best Roland Garros's as it is one of the only 3 he ever made the final, and he still lost to 17 year old Wilander. Djokovic in his 5 best Roland Garros's has lost to only Federer or Nadal.

Vilas was blown away and fed a bagel to end a striaght sets defeat by Pecci in 1979, and was beaten up by Solomon in 1976, eating two breadsticks in a 4 set defeat. Those are his 4th and 5th best RG performances.

Djokovic was always a tough matchup for Nadal, even on clay. In 2008 he was already a way tougher clay opponent for Nadal than Federer was. LOL at you only giving him credit as being a tough matchup for Nadal when he beats him regularly. By your logic Panatta was only a tough matchup for pre prime (before 1977) Borg and is even less of one.

Originally Posted by abmk View Post
peak federer is better than 81 lendl, but then the matchup factor negates that a bit .... take the matchup factor vs panatta as well into consideration
Even if it negates it a bit, Nadal faced Federer 5 years (prime Federer atleast 3 of those, once as an 18 year old), so that easily puts him over just 1 year of a pre prime Lendl, so overall as far as competition years of Federer >>>>> 1 year of Lendl. There is no evidence Panatta is any tougher a matchup for Borg on clay than Djokovic is for Nadal. At this point you are just spinning your wheels, you were wrong, plain and simple.

Last edited by NadalAgassi; 10-07-2012 at 06:53 AM.
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