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Old 10-24-2012, 09:08 AM   #1151
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Originally Posted by jean pierre View Post
Vilas won on clay FO (beating Gottfried), USO (Connors), Rome (Noah), Monte-Carlo (Fibak and Lendl), Madrid (Lendl), Gstaad (Clerc), Hamburg (Fibak), and so many others tournaments, I don't think that was mickey mouse tournaments.
I don't know, and nobody knows, what Federer could have done on green clay. But I'm sure it's a very big chance for Federer that 2 Grand Slams are played on hard courts. And Vilas was very disappointed in 1978 when he discovered Flushing Meadows. If USO was played on green clay in 1978-1982, Vilas could have won a second time.
and federer won :

RG 2009 ( beating del potro, soderling )

hamburg 2002 ( beating kuerten, safin )
hamburg 2004 ( beating hewitt, gaudio,moya, coria)
hamburg 2005 (beating coria,davydenko)
hamburg 2007 ( beating nadal, moya )
madrid 2009 ( beating nadal )
madrid 2012 ( beating ferrer, berdych)

federer would likely have done better on green clay than on red clay, given his style of play .....

But leaving that aside, as far as actual results on red clay go, federer has done better at RG and the clay court masters ( or masters equivalents for Vilas ) ...

When I mentioned mickey mouse tournaments, I meant many of those titles that vilas amassed in South America where very few of the top players were playing ....
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