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Old 11-12-2012, 12:34 PM   #38
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Yes i agree about defining technique as rally balls.

but for the sake of discussion... i think the out front is not related to 'heading over the net'.

By your definition it sounds like you are saying front and side of the body is determined by which direction they are facing. So if they facing the net and hit out in front then they are 'hitting out in front' and if they facing and running towards the side fence and hit out in front then they are 'hitting on the side of the body'. That doesn't seem right.

The optimal position of the racquet position at contact related to the torso/body is the same (give or take a couple inches maybe) for a rally ball facing the net and a running fh facing the sidefence ...which is 'in front of' the torso in the direction the torso is facing.
I see your point, but disagree for a couple of reasons. How can you reference the torso?
and at what point in the swing?
What would that even tell you?
Closed stance has the torso facing to the side or even back some.
Open stance, the chest of the torso should be coiled to the side strongly.
Neutral has chest and torso to side.
Are you suggesting that when the torso/chest is facing side, that hitting to
the front of it (towards the side fence) is hitting out front??
And yes, I understand the torso is turning during the stroke, but...that also
makes it a poor reference related to hitting in front of it.

Imo it is related to where the ball came from (which is the net direction)
and related to your center of rotation.
Your center of rotation needs to be closer to the back fence than your
contact point or
the contact point should be closer to the net than your center of rotation
when possible.
Squash shot is for reaching behind to get the contact and Continental tends
to be more to the side contact; both being weaker in general than shots
with the contact in front, closer to net than the center of rotation or mass.
A running Fh can be strong due to the harness of the side moving momentum
in the arc of the swing to counter the weaker contact position that is
sometimes required. Running Fh can be hit out front, to the side, or even behind the cor.

The key here is that the power source needs to be behind the contact to some extent
for best power and control; and behind it relative to where it sending the ball.
The book "Design B" describes hitting out front.

I guess this discussion explains why many screw this up.
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