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Old 11-16-2012, 08:12 AM   #169
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Originally Posted by Timbo's hopeless slice View Post
I wonder if this chap has ever heard of Muse or Radiohead?
Poor kid. These guys will not be remembered in 10, 20, or 30 years, but the Beatles sure will.


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Originally Posted by Timbo's hopeless slice View Post

The Stones? Well, yes, but The Who wrote better songs and Cream were far better musicians than any of them.
"Tommy" was fantastic, but no too much else the Who did is in a league with the best of the best. And not really interested in the musicianship of Cream, since it's less important than their output. (Think a guy with a great serve and volley, but who can't put it all together very often.)

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Why pre-disco for the Bee Gees? Or are you really that narrow minded?

I bet you hate Nirvana, too...
Because the disco stuff was pretty lame (though I guess not bad when compared with other, lamer disco stuff.) As for Nirvana, they were decent.

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Originally Posted by BauerAlmeida View Post
Queen can't be left out. The same for Kansas, Muse and King Crimson.

But glad you mentioned Bee Gees when 90% of the people think they're just "Stayin' Alive" and the disco crap and ignore their first albums.
Kansas?? As for Queen, Freddie Mercury was a hugely talented singer as mentioned previously, but the quality of their output was more than a bit shaky. "Another one bites the dust"? Eee Gads...

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I grew up on Disco-era Bee Gees, so it bypasses my muso filter entirely. I love it, all of it.

I love Cream, but I'd put the Experience above them (studio innovation, guitar, signature songs, etc.)

Velvet Underground should go on there, rating at least a 7.

It can't be understated how much the Beach Boys influenced British pop music. That influence was wider reaching and longer lasting than their legacy in the States; that may be part of the disconnect. The way the Who and Queen arrange and produce harmonies go back to the Beach Boys. The way the Beatles use minor keys to evoke unresolved melancholy behind lovelorn lyrics go back to the Beach Boys. Phil Spector and Brill Building popularized reverb as a way to convey foreground/background in pop, but the Beach Boys introduced the idea of miniaturist pop.

Pet Sounds had a fluency in arrangement that even eludes Revolver and Sgt Pepper. The production is forward thinking, but never treated as a special effect.
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I grew up on Disco-era Bee Gees, so it bypasses my muso filter entirely. I love it, all of it.
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I grew up on Disco-era Bee Gees, so it bypasses my muso filter entirely. I love it, all of it.
I grew up with it too, unfortunately, and only discovered the good Bee Gees stuff later on.

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I love Cream, but I'd put the Experience above them (studio innovation, guitar, signature songs, etc.)

Velvet Underground should go on there, rating at least a 7.
I didn't know what to do with Hendrix, since I consider him a solo-type act, but If I did put him on there, he'd probably be in the 6's as well, or a 5. (Simon and Garfunkel wasn't included because they are a duo more than a band, but they are a high 7, at least.)

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That's a good one. What delusional fool told you that?
The proof is in the pudding...

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Originally Posted by BauerAlmeida View Post
Sound yes. Compositions, not so much. Some Lennon songs could be written 20 years from now and would still be masterpieces.
Yes, of course. Somehow i don't think the same will be said for these Lemonheads and Radiomuse acts...

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This is correct. It's the compositions that made the Beatles so great and influential. Compare it to the Rolling Stones and it's a whole different league.
Let's not get carried away. The Beatles might be better, but the Stones produced an incredible number of fantastic songs.

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