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Old 11-19-2012, 07:44 AM   #611
Dan Lobb
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Originally Posted by BobbyOne View Post
Dan, your arguments are too cold and too hard for me.

I never heard that the 1952 Cleveland final was played on clay.

It is reported that Gonzalez won a claycourt tour over Segura.

You mix oranges with cold herrings. Pietrangeli was great at the end of the 1950s, not at the begin.

After all the lessons you have got in this forum, you should finally accept that the pros were stronger than the amateurs, even on clay! Look at Ayala in 1961. He was one of the strongest amateurs that year but lost to 40 years old Segura at his pro debut.
I read in several places that the 1952 Cleveland final was on clay (NY Times, for one).
Yes, Pietrangeli was great about 1956 to 1964 at RG, but we are looking at Gonzales getting a possible GS during that period as well.
Of course the pros were stronger in the fifties, but we are considering the possible results in an open game from about 1946 on, when even Drobny and Patty are pros.
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