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Old 11-19-2012, 12:47 PM   #612
Dan Lobb
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Originally Posted by BobbyOne View Post
Dan, Only you went through this. We need the overall balance on clay including the years when Rosewall dominated Hoad clearly (1958 on clay, 1961 to 1966 generally).
Unfortunately, we do not know the surface of many of the small European events of the 1960's. I had to remove some Rosewall wins from 1963 and 1964 because at Cannes it appears the surface was not clay, but indoor. Likewise, the Swiss tournaments. Perhaps the Italian.

Here is what we know for sure were important clay matches;

1) 1952 Australian Hardcourt final: Hoad def. Rosewall 2-6, 6-1, 1-6, 6-2, 11-9

2) 1953 Australian Hardcourt semi-final: Hoad def. Rosewall 6-1, 2-6, 6-1, 6-8, 7-5 (Hoad def. Bromwich in final 7-5, 6-3, 2-6, 9-7)

3) 1955 New South Wales Hardcourt final: Hoad def. Rosewall 6-3, 6-3

4) 1957 The Hague final (outdoor red shale): Hoad def. Rosewall, five-set marathon (this event currently an ATP Challenger Tournament)

5) 1957 Cairo final: Hoad def. Rosewall, five-set marathon

6) 1958 Roland Garros final: Rosewall def. Hoad 3-6, 6-2, 6-4, 6-0 (Hoad injured during match)

7) 1959 Roland Garros 3rd place: Hoad def. Rosewall 6-3, 4-6, 6-2

1960 Roland Garros final: Rosewall def. Hoad 6-2, 2-6, 6-2, 6-1

9) 1960 Tokyo Pro final (first ever pro championship in Japan): Hoad def. Rosewall 6-2, 0-6, 3-6, 6-1, 13-11

The totals are , let's see...... what?
I make it Hoad over Rosewall, 7 wins against 2 losses.
Not even close.

Earlier, we saw that Hoad held a lifetime edge over Gonzales on grass, 14 to 10. (In peak years, 1958-59, 13 to 9.)
What conclusions should we draw from these two facts?

Last edited by Dan Lobb : 11-19-2012 at 02:32 PM.
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