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Old 11-23-2012, 12:37 PM   #517
BobbyOne
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Originally Posted by Dan Lobb View Post
Sorry.
In acknowledgement of Bobby's concerns, I have compiled a definitive list of Hoad/Rosewall clay matches, giving the unknown surfaces an asterisked list of their own.

Hoad vs. Rosewall on clay in confirmed clay settings:

1) 1952 Australian Hardcourt final: Hoad df. Rosewall 2-6, 6-1, 1-6, 6-2, 11-9
2) 1953 Australian Hardcourt semi-final: Hoad df. Rosewall 6-1, 2-6, 6-1, 6-8, 7-5
3) 1955 New South Wales Hardcourt final: Hoad df. Rosewall 6-3, 6-3
4) 1957 The Hague (red shale) final: Hoad df. Rosewall in five-set marathon
5) 1957 Cairo final: Hoad df. Rosewall in five-set marathon
6) 1958 Roland Garros final: Rosewall df. Hoad 3-6, 6-2, 6-4, 6-0 (Hoad injured during match)
7) 1959 Roland Garros 3rd place: Hoad df. Rosewall 6-3, 4-6, 6-2
1960 Roland Garros final: Rosewall df. Hoad 6-2, 2-6, 6-2, 6-1
9) 1960 Tokyo (first Japanese Professional Championship): Hoad df. Rosewall 6-2, 0-6, 3-6, 6-1, 13-11

In addition, some of the following may have been on clay:

1) 1957 European tour: Hoad wins 6 matches to 3
2) 1958 Perrier: Rosewall wins 4 matches to 1
3) 1959 Rome: Rosewall df. Hoad 5-7, 6-4, 6-1
4) 1960 Geneva: Hoad df. Rosewall 6-4, 6-1
5) 1962 Geneva: Rosewall df. Hoad 6-3, 7-5
6) 1963 Poertschach: Rosewall df. Hoad 6-4, 6-3
7) 1963 Cannes Indoor: Rosewall df. Hoad 7-5, 6-3
1964 Cannes Indoor: Rosewall df. Hoad 14-12, 6-4

Assuming that all of the above asterisked matches were played on clay, the final tally head-to-head lifetime on clay was Hoad 15, Rosewall 14, Rosewall winning all of the matches after Hoad's game declined after 1960.
Dan, I can assure you that Poertschach 1963 was played on clay.

Even if you add the doubtful events, you still don't get the final tally hth lifetime on clay. I have told you already that Rosewall won many matches in 1961/1962 that are undocumented. Source is the Rowley bio of Rosewall.
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