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Old 01-09-2013, 08:00 PM   #659
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Originally Posted by pc1 View Post
I'll try to do some analysis on it. In the meantime here's some of the head to heads of Nadal against Roddick and Hewitt and Djokovic against the same two players. 7-3 in favor of Nadal against Roddick 6-4 in favor of Nadal against Hewitt. First three won by Hewitt and one won by Hewitt when Nadal retired. 6-1 in favor of Djokovic against Hewitt. Hewitt won the first match which Djokovic was younger. 5-4 in favor of Roddick. Roddick actually won four in a row against Djokovic at one point. Since late 2010 when Djokovic I guess straightened out his serve Djokovic has won the last two. In this case I would venture a guess that Roddick declined and Djokovic improved tremendously in the last two matches between the two.

Try to do more work on it later.
My own post on the H2H records between those five men was here:

I'd be interested in hearing your take on it. But even more than the H2H records, it's my question about the yearly win/loss records that I was interested in getting you to address (not sure if I made that distinction clear).

I first posted the data here:

2003: 75-16
2004: 74-6
2005: 81-4
2006: 92-5
2007: 68-9
2008: 66-15
2009: 61-12
2010: 65-13
2011: 64-12
2012: 71-12

Upthread you wrote, who really knows whether Federer has left his best tennis behind -- a statement I can't agree with at all, for many reasons. So my question has to do with these W/L records. We usually let them guide us if we want to identify when young players reached their peak playing level.

That being the case, shouldn't we let Federer's declining win/loss records guide us in the same way if we want to identify when he began declining from his peak playing level?

That was a question for both you and BobbyOne. I know you both have done a lot of research and work with yearly win/loss records going well back through tennis history.
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