Originally Posted by jamesblakefan#1
You're starting to sound stupid right now. The argument isn't about if these guys juiced, but when they started and how much it had to do with their success. Guys like Bonds and Clemens were great even before they juiced.
Bonds wasn't "great" in Pitt in the same way he was "great" in San Fran.
Oh, and he was super overrated as an outfielder and his "Gold Glove" awards were a joke. He had a lame duck arm, which is why he was moved from right to left field.